[squeak-dev] Smalltalk images considered harmful

José Luis Redrejo jredrejo at gmail.com
Fri Jun 20 08:00:20 UTC 2008


I just want to report you that etoys has just been accepted in the non-free
branch of Debian. The reason to put it in non-free (even if I (we) consider
it's free) is that we want to give the chance to the Debian users to use it
while the discussion on moving it to main continues. The next step is
filling a bug against ftp.debian.org saying that etoys in non-free is an
error, as it's a free package.

From my point of view, the main obstacle for Debian is the fact of not being
able to bootstrap, rebuild or check the changes in the image using plain
text files. Some of the things that have been said in this thread might head
to implement a way to demonstrate that this is possible, I guess that it
will be possible with future images, not with the current one. Obviously,
all the help or participation from the Squeak community to achieve this goal
is very welcome.
Also, if some of you would like to help to maintain Squeak in Debian,
please, tell it, so we can consider  creating an alioth project in Debian to
maintain this image and future squeak images in the distribution.

As Bert previously mentioned, Debian is not only for Debian users, but also
a seed for other distributions like mepis, knoppix, linex, skolelinux,
ubuntu, etc. that use its repositories and packages, so having Squeak in
Debian is a warranty to make its spreading and use easier for these
distributions users.

Regards.
José L
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