Why do you say that?
I think that it is difficult to get either a project that can be  
directly included or of a size that a student can really finish.
Look at mathieu: he worked hard on the compiler during the summertalk  
and google project and fixed a lot of
problems to the point that the new compiler is getting usable (error  
handling, decompilation...)
Now for damien I mentored damien in the hope that colin would join and  
take the lead with the goal to
really get an impact and improve MC2.

Stef


On Mar 5, 2008, at 12:07 AM, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:

> On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:55:26 +0100, stephane ducasse wrote:
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>> I like your vision.
>> Yes I would like to have really simpler projects with concrete  
>> impact.
>> 	- improving the shadowing report in the compiler
>> 	- improving code formatting
>> 	- GTK support (a smart student here would like to work on that).
>
> I bet one (1.-) CHF that GTK support will not be included in the  
> next Squeak release, not counting 3.10, not talking about an  
> optional package.
>
> /Klaus
>
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>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 11:04 PM, giovanni wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> in no more than two weeks, the 2008 edition of the Google Summer  
>>> of Code will
>>> start. It has been brought to my attention that I never sent a  
>>> final report
>>> for last year's edition, so here it is.
>>>
>>> Last year we partecipated in the Summer of Code with five  
>>> students: Damien
>>> Cassou, Mathieu Suen, Jerome Chaveau, Ben Schroeder, and Oleg  
>>> Korsak. You can
>>> learn more about their projects by visiting the Summer of Squeak  
>>> blog, at
>>> http://blog.summer.squeak.org/ . All the five students completed  
>>> their
>>> projects, and were paid in full by Google. Of the five projects,  
>>> only one
>>> (the New Compiler project by Mathieu Suen) is still being worked  
>>> on. Damien
>>> has stopped working on Monticello 2, but Colin has remused the  
>>> work on that,
>>> even though he's not using Damien's code. I have no news about the  
>>> other
>>> three projects. Guys, would you mind sending a quick status report?
>>>
>>> For their effort, we received 2500 USD, which are currently in my  
>>> current
>>> account. My apologies for not having sent them to Esug yet, but  
>>> the cheque
>>> from Google arrived while I was moving to London, so after putting  
>>> it into my
>>> account, I kinda set it aside. I'll wire the money to the Esug  
>>> treasurer
>>> asap.
>>>
>>> To sum up, here are the positives and negatives for last year's SoC:
>>>
>>> Positives
>>> - Five students got to be paid for their work, and we got paid for  
>>> mentoring
>>> them, too.
>>> - We got lots of visibility
>>>
>>> Negatives
>>> - None of the projects, except one, are still being worked on
>>> - With the possible exception of the new compiler project, the SoC  
>>> projects
>>> did not have any impact on the main Squeak image.
>>>
>>> This brings us to the other part of my message, which is the 2008  
>>> edition of
>>> the Summer of Code. Unless the board decides otherwise, I'm  
>>> willing to lead
>>> the SoC team to apply and possibly partecipate in this year's SoC.  
>>> In
>>> comparison to last year's effort, I propose two changes:
>>>
>>> - we apply as "Squeak Foundation" instead of simply "Squeak". This  
>>> would
>>> allow us to include other projects such as Seaside, Croquet etc  
>>> more easily.
>>> - we choose more "down to earth" projects that have a bigger  
>>> possibility of
>>> being included in the software we release (the main Squeak image,  
>>> Seaside,
>>> Croquet etc).
>>>
>>> There are also some more modifications which I'll propose on the  
>>> SoC mailing
>>> list.
>>>
>>> As usual, comments and flames are welcome.
>>>
>>>       Ciao,
>>>
>>>               Giovanni
>>>
>>>
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