Squeak Release Roadmap? (Was:Re: [squeak-dev] Notes from Release
Team meeting 2)
Igor Stasenko
siguctua at gmail.com
Thu Mar 20 16:17:13 UTC 2008
Good, how we suppose to arrange this?
Add new wiki entry?
I would prefer a page at squeak.org , since
squeak release is our major product, so we need to keep information
about it up to date and easy to find.
On 20/03/2008, Edgar J. De Cleene <edgardec2001 at yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
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> El 3/20/08 1:29 AM, "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua at gmail.com> escribió:
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> > What about making a more formal approach concerning next release?
> It would be
> > very useful to have a roadmap, what features we want in
> next release.
> We can
> > divide things/initiatives onto subprojects and place this on a
> web page. This
> > will serve good both for historical and organizational
> reasons.
> This will help
> > community (and newcomers) to be certain in what
> direction we are moving and
> > what most of us want to see in next
> release.
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>
> +1 for me.
>
> I resume my view, for all could send feedback and we could collect
> somewhere.
>
> 3.10 was the first release with some "package out" from previous 3.9 in
> automatic and predictable way.
>
> For this take the learning of Pavel with his Kernel and MinimalMorphic and
> mine from SqueakLight.
>
> Of course the list of people doing shrinking is bigger , as I put in my old
> pages about SqueakLight http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3935
>
> I wish going as close is possible towards MinimalMorphic, reshape current
> Morphic (1.3 mb mcz) with my old "Ladrillos "
> http://www.squeaksource.com/Ladrillos.html
>
> I have the new ReleaseBuilderFor3dot11 class, as we have in the old days and
> use again in 3dot10.
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> So this class documents all shrinking and reorganization I propose.
>
> I see in this days some propose having Smalltalk current cleanUp using the
> Ramon Leon script as start point.
>
> Being off line , I put a cleanupPhaseFinal in ReleaseBuilderFor3dot11 with
> some things I was discovering in the shrinking process.
>
> So , I was ready for cut the following from 3.10
> 'Tests' 'SMLoader' 'SMBase' 'SUnit' 'SUnitGUI' 'ScriptLoader' 'Universes'
> 'Installer' 'XML-Parser' 'BookMorphandFriends' 'EToys-StarSqueak'
> 'MorphicExtras-Demo' 'MorphicExtras-Components' 'EToys'
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> Still some more polish needed and agree with Pavel if this was the best
> reorg and take all methods changes needed from MinimalMorphic or do the
> needed ajustments.
>
> For Squeak3.10.gamma.7159.image
> Smalltalk size 1947
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> For MinimalMorphic.19
> Smalltalk size 1278
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> For "tentative" Squeak 3.11
> Smalltalk size 1495
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> And we have Flaps and could load and unload projects.
>
> So I think this was a good nine months target for polishing all and trying
> DeltaStreams / Monticello2 as update mechanism
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> Edgar
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Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
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