Squeak Release Roadmap? (Was:Re: [squeak-dev] Notes from Release Team meeting 2)

Igor Stasenko siguctua at gmail.com
Thu Mar 20 16:17:13 UTC 2008


Good, how we suppose to arrange this?
Add new wiki entry?
I would prefer a page at squeak.org , since
squeak release is our major product, so we need to keep information
about it up to date and easy to find.


On 20/03/2008, Edgar J. De Cleene <edgardec2001 at yahoo.com.ar> wrote:
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>  El 3/20/08 1:29 AM, "Igor Stasenko" <siguctua at gmail.com> escribió:
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>  > What about making a more formal approach concerning next release?
>  It would be
>  > very useful to have a roadmap, what features we want in
>  next release.
>  We can
>  > divide things/initiatives onto subprojects and place this on a
>  web page. This
>  > will serve good both for historical and organizational
>  reasons.
>  This will help
>  > community (and newcomers) to be certain in what
>  direction we are moving and
>  > what most of us want to see in next
>  release.
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> +1 for me.
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>  I resume my view, for all could send feedback and we could collect
>  somewhere.
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>  3.10 was the first release with some "package out" from previous 3.9 in
>  automatic and predictable way.
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>  For this take the learning of Pavel with his Kernel and MinimalMorphic and
>  mine from SqueakLight.
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>  Of course the list of people doing shrinking is  bigger , as I put in my old
>  pages about SqueakLight http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3935
>
>  I wish going as close is possible towards MinimalMorphic, reshape current
>  Morphic (1.3 mb mcz) with my old "Ladrillos "
>  http://www.squeaksource.com/Ladrillos.html
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>  I have the new ReleaseBuilderFor3dot11 class, as we have in the old days and
>  use again in 3dot10.
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>  So this class documents all shrinking and reorganization I propose.
>
>  I see in this days some propose having Smalltalk current cleanUp using the
>  Ramon Leon script as start point.
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>  Being off line , I put a cleanupPhaseFinal in ReleaseBuilderFor3dot11  with
>  some things I was discovering in the shrinking process.
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>  So , I was ready for cut the following from 3.10
>  'Tests' 'SMLoader' 'SMBase' 'SUnit' 'SUnitGUI' 'ScriptLoader' 'Universes'
>  'Installer' 'XML-Parser' 'BookMorphandFriends' 'EToys-StarSqueak'
>  'MorphicExtras-Demo' 'MorphicExtras-Components' 'EToys'
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>  Still some more polish needed and agree with Pavel if this was the best
>  reorg and take all methods changes needed from MinimalMorphic or do the
>  needed ajustments.
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>  For Squeak3.10.gamma.7159.image
>  Smalltalk size  1947
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>  For MinimalMorphic.19
>  Smalltalk size   1278
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>  For "tentative" Squeak 3.11
>  Smalltalk size 1495
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>  And we have Flaps and could load and unload projects.
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>  So I think this was a good nine months target for polishing all and trying
>  DeltaStreams / Monticello2 as update mechanism
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>  Edgar
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-- 
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.


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