[squeak-dev] Is Morphic 'frozen'?

Stéphane Rollandin lecteur at zogotounga.net
Mon Mar 24 20:31:48 UTC 2008


stephane ducasse a écrit :
> I would be interested in any effort that
>     - identify key classes in morphic and throw away the rest. Really 
> throw away experimental
>     or old code.

beware that what is old to you may be current to others. for example I 
remember you stating a few years ago on this list that bookmorphs should 
be discarded. well I use them (a lot) in muO (and I improved them a lot 
to, so maybe I could contribute)

>     - remove etoy dependencies and hacks. People that want to have fun 
> with Etoy should use SqueakLand image.    
>     Period.

this is harsh: I'm using Etoy in muO (not much but enough to care about 
it); so what are you suggesting for my "fun" ? should I port muO to 
Squeakland, which I never used ?

please respect the way other people (me, for example) use and work with 
Squeak. for what I understand you do not use Morphic very much. I do, a 
lot, and I can tell you this is to me THE major strong feature in 
Squeak. If it was not for Morphic I would only code in Lisp. Morphic is 
incredibly powerful and has absolutely no equivalent that I know of, so 
please, please leave to the people using it the decision about which 
part of it should be discarded. about Etoys, this has been discussed in 
this list many times, and the solution that makes everybody happy is 
very simple: ok to remove it if it can be loaded back.

I really feel offended by your "Period" sentence, so please forgive my 
tone if it seems rude in this message; I just want to be clear.


regards


Stef





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