[squeak-dev] Is Morphic 'frozen'?

Igor Stasenko siguctua at gmail.com
Mon Mar 24 23:14:36 UTC 2008


On 24/03/2008, Stéphane Rollandin <lecteur at zogotounga.net> wrote:
> stephane ducasse a écrit :
>
> > I would be interested in any effort that
>  >     - identify key classes in morphic and throw away the rest. Really
>  > throw away experimental
>  >     or old code.
>
>
> beware that what is old to you may be current to others. for example I
>  remember you stating a few years ago on this list that bookmorphs should
>  be discarded. well I use them (a lot) in muO (and I improved them a lot
>  to, so maybe I could contribute)
>
>
>  >     - remove etoy dependencies and hacks. People that want to have fun
>  > with Etoy should use SqueakLand image.
>  >     Period.
>
>
> this is harsh: I'm using Etoy in muO (not much but enough to care about
>  it); so what are you suggesting for my "fun" ? should I port muO to
>  Squeakland, which I never used ?
>
>  please respect the way other people (me, for example) use and work with
>  Squeak. for what I understand you do not use Morphic very much. I do, a
>  lot, and I can tell you this is to me THE major strong feature in
>  Squeak. If it was not for Morphic I would only code in Lisp. Morphic is
>  incredibly powerful and has absolutely no equivalent that I know of, so
>  please, please leave to the people using it the decision about which
>  part of it should be discarded. about Etoys, this has been discussed in
>  this list many times, and the solution that makes everybody happy is
>  very simple: ok to remove it if it can be loaded back.
>
>  I really feel offended by your "Period" sentence, so please forgive my
>  tone if it seems rude in this message; I just want to be clear.
>
>

I think Stephane by saying 'remove' meant  'replace by equivalent
functionality and review the users of it to match new design'.
We need to throw away classes to do some cleaning. Such classes can be
detached into separate package.
Why i agree with Stephane on that? Its because if we need to see
Morphic better maintainable then reducing the code size is good way to
achieve that.

>  regards
>
>
>  Stef
>

-- 
Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.


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