[squeak-dev] Unload Traits script

Keith Hodges keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk
Mon May 12 19:51:11 UTC 2008


stephane ducasse wrote:
>>> What about people who need traits?
>
> Hi philippe
>
> who care, they are idiot. Reuse is a bullshit.
> if people believe that traits are the unique problem of Squeak let 
> them believe it.
>
> I recently receive that email from a guy aparently from the C++ and 
> perl community. Certainly one of this
> one idiot that believe in other abstractions.
>
> "First, I wonder if you were aware of the impact your paper has had on 
> the early stages of designing the object system for Perl 6.  I guess 
> Larry was quite taken with the idea.  After struggling to bend C++ 
> templates to a similar end, I certainly see it as revolutionary.
>
> I further wonder if you are interested in Perl 6, and are looking in 
> on the design effort from time to time.  I'm currently working on a 
> more detailed exploration of the type system.
>
> --John"
>
> We made a huge mistake to have done 3.9, we should have forked 3 years 
> ago. Now I start to believe what marcus always told me.
>
> Stef 
Sorry Stef but I think you are overreacting,

We like traits, we are just providing options for the community.

It is clear that Andreas likes the idea of traits enough to consider 
working them into Croquet as he has shown in the previous email.

If you didnt want this level of flexibility then you guys shouldnt have 
designed traits to be flattenable and hence backwardly compatibile. 
Therefore this is just a perfectly logical next step in the traits story 
and nothing to get upset about.

best regards

Keith









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