[squeak-dev] Nothing much [was: what is holding back Smalltalk?]

Bert Freudenberg bert at freudenbergs.de
Fri Nov 21 09:55:24 UTC 2008


Where did you hear that?

- Bert -

On 21.11.2008, at 10:47, Steven W Riggins wrote:

> I heard that google hired developers with deep Smalltalk  
> experience........
>
> On Nov 21, 2008, at 12:28 AM, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:02:47 +0100, Mark Volkmann <mark at ociweb.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't have a lot of experience with Smalltalk yet, but I really  
>>> love what I've seen so far.
>>>
>>> I'm curious what experienced Smalltalkers see as some of the  
>>> reasons why it doesn't attract more attention.
>>
>> Me thinks that the Smalltalk community is healthy and vibrant--it  
>> is "just" a community form one would not expect for Ruby or Python  
>> or Perl, etc. To get impression of my impression take a look at  
>> what *actually* happened during the *recent* months:
>>
>> - Exupery (native x86 methods) powers Huemul
>> - Seaside (web++ framework++) powers GLASS
>> - Hydra (multiple parallel .images) powers Croquet .images
>> - Google hires developers with deep Smalltalk experience
>> - two more gods to be worshipped in the VM temple ;)
>> - Squeak powers NewSpeak
>> - new book Squeak by Example (creative commons license)
>> - port of OpenDBX to Squeak (still not on windoze)
>> - port of Squeak/VM to "another" smartphone platform ;)
>> - DrGeo made it to the XO (OLPC)
>> - fresh new subcommunity Pharo
>> - attempt? to port Moose (world class sw analysis) to Squeak
>> - Google hires developers with deep Smalltalk experience
>> - Squeak web site migrated to/powered by Aida/Web Squeak
>> - 4 (four) projects run through 2008's Goggle Summer of Code
>> - the "everybody needs it" Safara from GSoC as yet not in mainstream
>> - the "everybody needs it" Squeak GTK from GSoC as yet not in  
>> mainstream
>> - IBM builds Smalltalk IDE inside Eclipse
>> - Google hires developers with deep Smalltalk experience
>> - ESUG 2008 conference draws more attendands than ever
>>
>> That list is of course incomplete, for example one wants to add the  
>> many noobs who joined #squeak and the beginners mailing list.
>>
>> I do not think that *soo* much is holding back Smalltalk ;)
>>
>> /Klaus
>






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