[squeak-dev] People.squeakfoundation.org still useful?

Ken Causey ken at kencausey.com
Wed Oct 15 00:06:00 UTC 2008

Discussion of new features comes up over and over and over again, and
little happens.  I've made some minor changes.  The site is implemented
as an Apache 1.x module, that is, C.  C that does a lot of XML parsing.
The community of people interested in doing a lot of work on such an
entity within this community is vanishingly small.

Discussion of new features at this point is frankly way off-topic.  The
only way it could be on-topic at this point is if you instead turn the
topic toward total reimplementation.  That's the only way I foresee
significant changes occuring.

On the subject of the rankings.  It's fun, just look at how many people
I have ranked on the site.  If we were having a competition I think I
might just win.  But the reality is the only thing we actually use it
for is for the voter list and the only thing that matters is that the
person is ranked at all (i.e. not ranked observer, which is equivalent
to no rank at all).

So we could simply change this to a concept of 'vetting'.  Having been
'vetted' is a boolean state.  Everyone has this state set to False by
default.  A small number of known people have their vetted state set to
True (think site admins).  Those people then make an effort to go
through the list of people and vette each one that they know represents
a real 'squeaker', has a valid email address, is known to have access to
the account.  In turn each of these people does the same.

I'm considering adding this to SqueakMap where we are all already
supposed to have registered an account to ensure we are using unique
developer initials.  I'm just considering it, but it is a way to
replicate the voter list functionality of Squeak People and eliminate
that as a reason to keep a site with a long list of deficiencies.


On Wed, 2008-10-15 at 02:38 +0300, Igor Stasenko wrote:
> 2008/10/15 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek at eranova.si>:
> > When I came to Squeak, SqueakPeople was and still is one of my more
> > sympathetic things the Squeak community have. Loosing it it will be a loss
> > for us.
> >
> > I think with a little modernization SqueakPeople can become popular
> > again. With changing diaries to a full-blown blog for instance. Everyone can
> > then have a blog for free, that is, for zero time needed to set up. Just one
> > idea. Also that admirations/certifications are interesting. At least I found
> > them such when I registered first time for my first voting. At that time I
> > played with that a bit more and it is my feeling that with such admirations
> > you can actually reward and encourage someone for his work. And any such
> > little encouragement is welcome in these times, IMHO.
> >
> +1
> The certification system is one of the nicest features of SqP. But
> apart from that, another facilities is minimal.
> It would be good to modernize it and convert it to something more than
> just place to identify people/voting.
> In my vision it would be cool to merge facilities of
> SqueakSource/SqueakMap + Blog + issue tracker + wiki + SqP to form
> something like squeak planet/world. But its a bit too ambitious :)
> > Best regards
> > Janko
> >
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