[squeak-dev] UTF8 - squeak

José Luis Redrejo jredrejo at gmail.com
Fri Oct 24 17:34:11 UTC 2008

Add the debian lenny repositories to your ubuntu installation, and install
using apt-get or synaptic the package etoys .
You'll also get the squeak-vm package.
WIth both packages you'll have it working as Bert has explained.
Don't use the squeak-vm package from Ubuntu as it doesn't support dead keys.

José L.

2008/10/24 Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>

> Am 24.10.2008 um 14:27 schrieb Casimiro de Almeida Barreto:
>  Mariano Martinez Peck escreveu:
>>> Casimiro: Many thanks for the help. Ï did all you said I now I get "a?"
>>> "e?" "u?" and so on instead of "´a" "´e"....however, I didn't get "á", "é"
>>> and "ú". Any ideas? Ahh which would be the correct value for LC_CTYPE for
>>> english?  "pt_EN" ???
>>> Katerina: I test the etoys image you said with the normal vm (not etoys
>>> vm) and there they work perfect the keys! What could be the difference? The
>>> problem is I would like to use Demian image, not etoys. So, the only thing I
>>> could do is the link you told me about the
>>> russian support ?
>>> many thanks for the help,
>>> Mariano
>>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Katerina Barone-Adesi <
>>> katerinab at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi everybody! I am using Ubuntu 8.04, latin american keyboard, squeak
>>> 3.9
>>> > vm, squeak 3.10.2 of Damien Cassou. The problem is that I cannot type
>>> > symbols like: "á" , "ó", "ú" and so on....If I press the keys for those
>>> > symbols I get "´a" "´o" and "´u" respectively. So, I guess it can be a
>>> > problem with UTF8.
>>> >
>>> > Does some know how can I fix this? is there somewhere in the squeak
>>> image I
>>> > have to set the encoder ?
>>> Given that you get ´a, etc, I assume you're using deadkeys.  The only
>>> way I know of to get deadkeys to work under Squeak is to use the OLPC
>>> image; unfortunately, they don't appear to work in any of the
>>> squeak.org images (3.9 or 3.10), or Damien Cassou's.  You can get it
>>> from http://etoys.laptop.org/src/etoys-image-and-pr.zip .  I forget if
>>> you need to use the OLPC vm too or not;
>>> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Etoys#Method_3_-_Install_RPMs_or_.deb.27s_.28Linux_Only.29
>>> has instructions if just using the image with your current VM isn't
>>> enough.
>>> If you're not using deadkeys, the above should still work, but you
>>> also have an alternative:  following the instructions at
>>> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5773 .  The page focuses on Russian
>>> support, but the image that results from following it also works for
>>> Spanish.  If you really want to use something based on Damien Cassou's
>>> image and don't need deadkeys, try this (and tell me if it works for
>>> you, and if not, what's wrong); otherwise, the OLPC instructions above
>>> should be easier.
>>> I hope this helps.
>>> Regards;
>>> Katerina Barone-Adesi
>>>  Ops...
>> I guess that unsing LC_CTYPE="en" will just kill your dead-letters. I'm
>> using a US keyboard (no ç or anything like that in the keyboard) and I use
>> the LC_CTYPE="pt_BR" for the sake of composing  ' +  c = ç and ' + a = á. So
>> I think you should try LC_CTYPE="es". I agree about the strageness of using
>> a pt_BR (should be a pt_EN). BTW, in Linux my keyboard is configured as :
>> "USA Alternative international (former us_intl) (gnome preferences menu).
>> Besides, the system language is set to Portuguese (Brasil) (Administration
>> menu, Language settings. Must have root access).
>> As you are having trouble, perhaps your system idiom is not set to
>> Spanish... or the system encoding is not set to UTF-8 (that should be the
>> default). You can try to change SQUEAK_ENCODING and TEXTENC to "latin9" or
>> "latin1" or ISO8859-1... Anyways, I think that character selection is
>> something that must be perfected in squeak :(
>> BTW, I'm using Fedora rel 9. But my configuration should be the same to
>> work in Ubuntu.
>> Abraços,
>> Casimiro
> I'm not entirely sure what LC_CTYPE does. But on the OLPC no LC_* variable
> was set, only LANG (e.g,, pt_BR.utf8 or en_EN.utf8). To have composite input
> working correctly we now set LC_ALL to $LANG, too.
> - Bert -
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