[squeak-dev] Our process, some loose ideas regarding DS + MC

Keith Hodges keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk
Sat Aug 15 17:51:39 UTC 2009


Göran Krampe wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
> As we all know we are in the middle of a heated discussion about our
> release process etc. I haven't read all messages nor do I think that
> any of the two "sides" (Andreas and Keith basically) are 100% wrong
> nor 100% right.
There are not two sides to this there is one side, the board either
acted rightly or wrongly. When that issue has been sorted out then you
can debate the details of the actual proposals.

Currently when you discuss this with board members, the response, due to
the fact that new interest has been generated in making patches, is that
"the end justifies the means".

Once I pointed out that the same ends could have been acheived by
different means, and that we already had 98 patches manually included in
3.11 as of December last year, and with the automatic process we
anticipated harvesting about 300 per release cycle. i.e. we already had
more patches than we knew what to do with, Randal's interest returned
and a civil positive conversation ensued.

I still think that the board is supposed to be hands off and not boots on.

I still think that everyone should be treated fairly.

If Andreas wants to volunteer to be on the release team then that is
cool, but to purposefully initiate a process that is destined to cause
conflict is really out of order.

Igor was at pains to point out that he is contributing as a volunteer to
the DeltaStreams initiative - fantastic. Someone famous once said that
if you want to be a leader then to do so you must be a servant to all.
This is what I have been trying to do all along, but even that famous
person ran into trouble when faced with an autocratic regime.

Keith



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