[squeak-dev] Winds of change

askoh askoh at askoh.com
Fri Feb 6 16:53:48 UTC 2009


I think it is good you dare to speak your mind. I also think that the Squeak
community can take that. Keep your ideas coming.

I would like Squeak to be callable from other programs so that it can be
used as plugins.

Aik-Siong Koh



Giuseppe Luigi Punzi Ruiz wrote:
> 
> We have elections soon.
> 
> I'ts time to think about the project. What we search? What new 
> developers search?
> 
> I think, probably, Squeak, needs a refactoring on the ideas behind. The 
> people thath wants etoys, use etoys image. Croquet uses his own image. 
> Now, at the moment (2009), I'm 90% sure, the people thath go to 
> squeak.org, and get the latest Squeak, now, are developers searching a 
> good smalltalk (something similar to VW but opensource I means) to use 
> in their projects, not the use of Squeak as multimedia, or something 
> similar. I know this for all spanish people ask me about Squeak, or 
> developers "going out the list" searching Pharo, an approach to the 
> things I say.
> 
> I like the idea about a console squeak (like GST) with the objects 
> living in memory, but not dependent of the "World", launching the actual 
> Squeak World as an object (I don't know if is the actual behaviour, I 
> only dream) if you want, or launching something like VW (or Dolphin) 
> working over TK or GTK or WxWidgets or technologys like XUL 
> instead.....I like the idea of an UI Painter....I like the idea of all 
> Squeak tools running over web too..well, this idea don't like it very 
> much :)..but I don't have the skills for all of this, for this I offer 
> the ideas. But most important, is the community has vote for this 
> things. The community needs to stay informed about the movements. I 
> think, this, is the right direction.
> 
> I don't know what you all think, but IMHO, it's the moment to get a new 
> Squeak 4 from zero, trying to preserve the core classes, with new ideas 
> and ambitions.
> 
> I don't like very much the idea about all list hating me, but, after 
> this mail, I know you hate me :P
> 
> P.D.: Yes, probably, I'm crazy too.
> 
> 
> 

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