On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Klaus D. Witzel <klaus.witzel at cobss.com>wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:35:49 +0100, Eliot Miranda wrote:
>
>  On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 1:17 AM, edgar De Cleene wrote:
>>
>>
>>> > A standard "kernel image" that everyone builds
>>> > off of has long
>>> > been a pipe dream of nearly everyone in the community. I
>>> > believe
>>> > that such an image is not achievable in the short term;
>>> > convincing all of the squeak distributions to adopt it
>>> > would be
>>> > nearly impossible to adopt incrementally.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Such image exist and is MorphicCore of Pavel Krivanek.
>>> We should go towards this , removing packages from the top and reshaping
>>> packages if packages as we know today can't be unloades/loaded nicely
>>>
>>
>>
>> Any image containing a GUI is a non-starter IMO.  People may not want a
>> GUI
>> (e.g. the embedded and scripting folks).  People may want a particular GUI
>> (MVC, Morphic, Tweak, Newspeak, Croquet, one of the native GUIs) with no
>> vestiges of the old one.  So the common image needs to be a small headless
>> core that can bootstrap any image.  This image needs minimal scripting
>> support to respond to command-line bootstrap commands (including
>> cross-platform stdin & stdout and a file interface), a compiler with which
>> to compile code, collections, magnitudes, exceptions (as necessary), a
>> default error handler that dumps the stack to stdout and then aborts, and
>> that's about it.
>>
>> All images derived from it should be derived by running scripts
>> (repeatable process).
>>
>
> Sure, and Pavel's has this all, and it's working, no wonder that Edgar
> often mentions it:
>
> - http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/ralph/blogView?entry=3342635112


If it doesn't have a GUI then why is it called MorphicCore??!
Reading from the blog entry it looks like it has eToys removed but not much
more.
Pavel, is it a headless image?
Klaus, if the image is not headless ten it doesn't meet my specification.



> <http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/ralph/blogView?entry=3342635112>
>
>  These scripts should be versioned.
>>
>> Further, this initial image should be built from scratch, e.g. using John
>> Maloney's MicroSqueak as a starting point.
>>
>
> Interesting. Where is that one, search didn't show it:
>
> - http://www.google.com/search?q=John+Maloney+MicroSqueak
>
> [... much more good stuff cut away ...]
>
>
> --
> "If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for it". Albert
> Einstein
>
>
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