[squeak-dev] Re: Balloon3D

Andreas Raab andreas.raab at gmx.de
Wed Jan 7 05:08:37 UTC 2009

Edgar J. De Cleene wrote:
> Wonderland is on FunSqueak , what is 3.10 with all old friends and several
> new into :=)

We should start thinking about how to get a FunSqueak going for 3.11, by 
which I mean start testing the FunSqueak packages in 3.11 so that we can 
have a more compelling Squeak release. Are you up for making an 
Installer load script for FunSqueak?

> I agree Croquet  or Cobalt is superior, but for start playing with 3D as
> Ramiro said, maybe exploring Wonderland worths the troubles.

It definitely is. It turns out that the usage in Croquet is something 
slightly different - it's purely OpenGL, purely hardware accelerated and 
while this gives much better performance than B3D, the latter has the 
advantage that it is much more integrated with the rest of Morphic and 
that you can do some fun things with it that are pretty much impossible 
to do via Croquet. I'm kinda considering reviving B3D as a simplified, 
but working model of "how 3d works" and leave Croquet for the more 
professional uses. The tinkering part is real fun if you're not looking 
for top of the line performance.

   - Andreas

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