[squeak-dev] Re: A New Community Development Model
Keith Hodges
keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Jul 2 14:04:24 UTC 2009
Göran Krampe wrote:
> Hi folks!
>
> I am getting tired of the heated up tone...
>
> I started this darn thread (you may recall) and I just wanted a good
> discussion with some good results.
>
> Noone should feel being driven away. These effects in these
> discussions are normal - when people work hard on things and then
> seemingly noone is noticing it hurts a bit.
>
> Keith is probably hurt in this way, and so are others.
Not hurt just getting pissed off.
One minute the board is a non-intervening non-relevant talk shop, that
can safely be ignored. The next it is taking over completely, and
throwing grenades in all directions.
One minute a board representative says, relax a bit on 3.11 since 4.0 is
the important thing, oh and 4.0 is stalled because of the need to talk
to the lawyers.
The next minute the board is acting in lieu of the release team, which
they don't perceive to be doing anything (see previous paragraph!) and
making pronouncements on process which directly contravene all previous
announcements.
The board needs to work out whether it is a release team or an oversight
board. If it choses to make 4.0 a priority, then it should recuit and
encourage the people who want to work on it. I myself couldn't care less
about licencing issues, because I believe in the spirit of SqueakL and
that is good enough for me. Besides, if you sue me you wont get anything.
In the context of the 3.11 process all the relicencing effort amounts to
is a couple of changesets that can be placed on mantis and integrated
into 3.10. The board have deemed that this shall be called 4.0 for
political reasons.
If it wants 3.11 then it should monitor and encourage the team that it
appointed, it should not be deciding how the work is to be done. The
least it should do is talk to the people involved.
If others want to step up to the plate with a complete proposal as to
where squeak should go, and seek the boards approval, then fine. However
I venture to suggest it would be more constructive to simply sign up to
release at lists.squeakfoundation.com and ask what you can do to help.
Keith
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