On 28-Jun-09, at 3:23 AM, Göran Krampe wrote:

> IMHO Pharo is not such a fork, Pharo is still very much "generic" as  
> is Squeak.org. Pharo is more like "Squeak.org going agile" or  
> "Smalltalk, with less talk" :). And thus it resembles XOrg much,  
> much more than OpenBSD.

One aspect of Pharo's practical streak that hasn't been mentioned yet  
is the willingness to abandon compatibility with Etoys - something the  
Squeak.org community has been unwilling to do. What's really silly  
about this situation is that the actual users of Etoys forked some  
time ago, and almost nobody actually uses Etoys in Squeak.

IMHO, Squeak.org needs to either recommit to Etoys and education as  
its primary mission, or break compatibility and become a general  
Smalltalk platform for a variety of applications. This suggests a  
merger with either Squeakland or Pharo, but even without merging,  
Squeak.org can get its mojo back if it chooses an identity.

-Colin