+1.  As a relative newbie I want to say how energized I feel by the level of
discussion and breadth of innovation there is in the Squeak community.  Its
great to be one small fish in a fast flowing Amazon of a Smalltalk.
Best
Eliot

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Andreas Raab <andreas.raab at gmx.de> wrote:

> +1
>
> And yes, I feel just as cheerful. Must be something in the air or so :-)
>
> Cheers,
>  - Andreas
>
> Göran Krampe wrote:
>
>> Hi Pharaos (and Squeak-dev)! :)
>>
>> Alert to Pharaos: This is a cross post! (hehe)
>>
>> I just wanted to say (for whatever that is worth) that I like Pharo. And I
>> like Squeak.org. And I like everyone doing stuff in/for/on
>> Squeak/Pharo/Smalltalk/Huemul whatever.
>>
>> I have Pharo on my disk. I just started playing in it for a toy project
>> involving RB AST, RoelTyper etc.
>>
>> But I do all Gjallar work on 3.10.2/LPF right now, it takes time moving a
>> large project to a different baseline, so Gjallar will probably be on 3.10.2
>> for a while. But nothing prevents us from testing out Pharo later on -
>> whatever works the best I say. Gjallar is also 95% ported to GS these days.
>>
>> I agree with Keith/Matthew that making good tools that can *span*
>> different forks/communities *must* be a good thing for us all to have. All
>> tools don't need to be spanning, but it doesn't hurt if *some* are - right?
>>
>> I *also* agree with Pharo people that hey, Pharo is a fork - we/you can do
>> whatever we/you like! And that is good - it's the strength of Pharo. If
>> Pharo diverts too much in "base stuff" it might turn into a weakness - but
>> we just don't know these things, it is still to be seen.
>>
>> It is all about balance, benefits, etc. And we don't need to get angry
>> with each other do we? :) Trust me, it just burns your energy!
>>
>> I have code that seems to be doing fine in Pharo - SocketStream comes to
>> mind. I know Pharo seem to be more inclined to use Universes than SM - fine
>> with me, no problem.
>>
>> I hope to move SM forward in some way, and I hope it can still be
>> loaded/used from within Pharo - even if it gets thrown out soon (I think I
>> read something about that). I also intend to use both Pharo, Squeak or
>> whatever works best for my different tasks.
>>
>> And finally I hope to revive DeltaStreams and make that work in Pharo as
>> well as most other Squeak flavors.
>>
>> We are all Squeakers, right? :)
>>
>> regards, Göran
>>
>> PS. I am not sure why I am so damn cheerful, perhaps it is the SURGE I
>> seem to feel in the Squeak community - so many things going on all over the
>> place... ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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