Personal media, multimedia capabilities, eToys and all the goals
mentioned by Andreas are my own also, and I think that they don't
exclude the Juan goals. Between these I agree particularly with

* Developers working for devices with little memory or CPU power.

thinking in embedded development.

But, and is a big but on my pov, I wants also all the possibilities to
make web development. I don't like the idea of think that to web dev I
should switch to Pharo. Is hard to maintain myself updated with one
product, I can't imagine how to stay up-to-date with two.

As Miguel mentioned in another thread, the mostly paying people on our
days is paying for web projects and I wants to develop them using
Squeak.

I wish a Squeak capable of run:

- Seaside
- Aida
- Iliad
- SWT (I'm porting right now to the trunk image)

in addition to all the other goals named before.

Count me in to help also, in my really very very limited free time.

Cheers.





2009/11/15 Andreas Raab <andreas.raab at gmx.de>:
> Juan Vuletich wrote:
>>
>> No matter how many times we said this, from what I see in responses to
>> this thread, it seems people still don't get it.
>
> Not unexpectedly ;-) I can see both sides though; on the one hand it's
> difficult to describe exactly where Squeak will be without having a set of
> known resources. On the other hand, the question of where Squeak is headed
> is certainly a fair one. As a result, I'm trying to answer the question by
> looking at the resources that are being committed to improving Squeak, i.e.,
> summarize what people actually work on and try to project where this will
> get us.
>
>> My own Squeak direction is described in
>> http://www.jvuletich.org/Cuis/Index.html . As it seems to be incompatible
>> with that of many in the community, it requires a fork.
>
> I don't think that the goals are incompatible. With more work on modularity,
> I think that your goals can be a subset of those in the larger community
> (just as my goals are a subset of those).
>
>> Aside from that, I fully support your direction, and I'll try to keep
>> helping. Of course, I'd be delighted if at least some of my objectives were
>> adopted for Squeak too.
>
> Absolutely. I agree with a lot of what you're writing. I have some different
> ideas in various areas but on a fundamental level I think we have fairly
> compatible ideas.
>
> Cheers,
>  - Andreas
>
>
>