[squeak-dev] Metacello

Keith Hodges keith_hodges at yahoo.co.uk
Thu Sep 3 11:22:38 UTC 2009


Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez wrote:
> El mié, 02-09-2009 a las 16:50 -0700, Igor Stasenko escribió:
>   
>> 2009/9/2 Germán Arduino <garduino at gmail.com>:
>>     
>>> 2009/9/2 Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com>:
>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> No amount of effort announcing, documenting, and promoting makes any
>>>>> difference. I have made considerable efforts on all three over the past
>>>>> 3 years whereas in contrast Lukas does no announcing, documenting or
>>>>> promoting, yet people use his stuff without a second thought.
>>>>>           
>>>> Simply not true.  Google Lukas Renggli and you get
>>>>    http://www.lukas-renggli.ch/
>>>>
>>>> Click on the Magritte link and you get overview, installation instructions,
>>>> links to mailing lists, code repositories, instructions on how to report
>>>> errors, a list of publications and a tutorial.
>>>> Google Keith Hodges and Bob the Builder and you get
>>>>
>>>>  http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/release/2008-October/000036.html
>>>> which, when I read it, presumes I know an awful lot of context I have no
>>>> clue how to create.  There's no overview, there's no pointer to code,
>>>> there's no tutorial, no hand-hlding, juts a description of how you go about
>>>> things once you understand how the whole thing works.  i.e. far too
>>>> demanding for a noob like myself.  I'm simply not smart enough to figure out
>>>> how to use your system form that description.
>>>> Magritte on the other hand looks like it could be worth some of my ever
>>>> shorter in supply time to explore. (As does Pier, Scriptaculous and the rest
>>>> of Lucas's thoughtfully presented projects).
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Sorry Keith, I respect your work and the time you invested as the time
>>> and work of any person contributing
>>> with Squeak, but I'm in a similar situation of Eliot, never understood
>>> the whole context of all your tools with
>>> exception of Installer.
>>>
>>> As all of us, my free time is very limited, but I try to be acquainted
>>> of all the Squeak news, mainly the tools and
>>> process to build "our" Squeak and think that we need a consensus prior
>>> to adoption of tools and, afaik, I think that
>>> such consensus don't exist yet.
>>>
>>>       
>> (wearing my Board member hat)
>> so, any volunteers to help Keith to document & publicize the essence
>> from his tools?
>> (wearing off the hat)
>>
>>     
>
> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/pipermail/pharo-project/2009-August/012118.html
>
> He doesn't want help.
>
>   
I have never seen the above email before.

Sake/Packages is documented.

To install

Installer install: 'Pacakges'.

Documentation is in the class comment

Keith







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