[squeak-dev] RE: [Pharo-project] [FFI] ExternalStructure ownership (or not) of memory

Schwab,Wilhelm K bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
Sat Apr 3 11:50:37 UTC 2010


Andreas,

Humor aside, it is an important consideration for a system that is to be able to run for any length of time.  So far, I appear to be having good results in that area (yup, my servers are still running), but I am working on something that could turn into a real resource hog if it does not clean up after itself.  I *think* the cleanup is limited to other wrapper objects, and the structs are largely just a convenience for accessing memory allocated elsewhere - I think ~:0

Thanks!

Bill 


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Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [FFI] ExternalStructure ownership (or not) of memory

On 4/2/2010 8:37 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
> Andreas,
>
> So ExternalStructure>>free is not invoked by default?  Sady to say, I never even considered that possibility.

It's not. Memory is cheap :-)

Cheers,
   - Andreas

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> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] [FFI] ExternalStructure ownership (or 
> not) of memory
>
> I would suggest that you only register a finalizer for objects where 
> you
> *do* have responsibility to reclaim them. There are no implicit finalizers registered for any subclasses of ExternalObject by default - the only thing that happens is that all handles are cleared when the image is restarted.
>
> Cheers,
>     - Andreas
>
> On 4/2/2010 5:17 PM, Schwab,Wilhelm K wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Suppose I have a pointer to a structure and I do or do not have the responsibility of reclaiming the memory when a corresponding ExternalStructure sub-instance is finalized.  How do I distinguish the two cases?  One idea I had is to explicitly set the handle to nil if I do not own the memory, but (please correct me if I'm wrong), I can't do that while I'm still using the instance because it will presumably use the handle in accessing the fields, right?
>>
>> Looking at implementors of #isExternalAddress, maybe the idea is to use a byte array to make a copy of memory and an address to refer to it.
>>
>> What should I be asking? :)
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
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