I agree with Dave. Keep everything that is loadable out of the base release. If desired, make another dev release with the good stuff already loaded.  I am finding the 'Extending the System' menu selection, opening the Workspace with all the snippets for loading externally maintained packages, seems to be a step in the right direction. IMHO, trunk could be thought of as an easy way to try things out and work on them, but not the best way for longer term maintenance of packages that should remain loadable. 

Ken G. Brown
from my iPhone

On 2010-12-05, at 8:49, "David T. Lewis" <lewis at mail.msen.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 04, 2010 at 06:52:08PM -0800, Casey Ransberger wrote:
>> O-Completion: +1
>> 
>> Yes oh yes please include O-Completion in 4.2. When we figure out what we're
>> doing about easy loading of "Community Supported Packages" we can think
>> about pulling it back out and making it an easily loadable package.
> 
> IIUC, the O-Completion package is very actively maintained on SqueakSource
> and is already loadable in Squeak trunk. Making a fork of this in Squeak
> sounds to me like a Really Bad Idea.
> 
> What would be a good idea is to *document* how to load O-Completion
> (probably in one of the welcome workspaces that appears when the image
> is first opened), so that a first time user can open Squeak 4.2 and
> easily see how to load this package. I just tried loading it myself,
> and it loads cleanly and works as advertised. What's not to like? :)
> 
> Dave
> 
>> 
>> This is something that I can show developers who are new to Smalltalk that
>> they'll recognize and appreciate. I think it's a really big win.
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 5:53 PM, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> It's December, and time to consider freezing the 4.2 code base.  If we
>>> can push any final enhancements and image documentation desired for
>>> 4.2 in over the next week, we can freeze officially on the 11th.  Is
>>> this ok?
> 
> Yes this sounds good to me.
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> We should begin considering the release-notes.  What is the easiest
>>> way to identify everything that's one into 4.2 since 4.1?
>>> 
>>> Some of the items listed at the 4.2-release page
>>> (http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6160) are:
>>> 
>>> - Integration of Cryptography
>>> - Documentation
>>> - Integration of O-Completion
>>> 
>>> What do we all think about integration of O-Completion?  Levente
>>> already did the work, it makes the IDE that much more useful and
>>> modern and, it can be turned off.  Shall we include that?
>>> 
>>> What What else do we need to consider for the 4.2 image release?
>>> 
> 
>