keith wrote:
>> With such an outrageous claim, can I ask you to either provide actual 
>> evidence (quotes, logs, etc) which board members believe this to be a 
>> dictatorship or, if you are unable to provide said evidence, retract 
>> your false accusation?
> 
> Your wish is my command. You may have been puzzled as to why I have been 
> so vocal, I am only reacting against this kind of dictatorship talk. 

Is that all you got? A single quote from a single discussion on IRC? If 
anything it goes to show that my dislike of IRC is well justified. The 
inability to make a complete argument combined with public logs makes 
sure that if you actually engage in discussion you're going to say 
certain things that should be off-records; except they're not because 
it's in the logs.

I *very* much doubt that Randal meant this sentence as a "It's a 
dictatorship, damnit, get used to it!" but rather as a casual 
observation to get a point across as one would in a casual conversation. 
I would disagree even with that but I have no doubt that Randal used a 
bit of rhetoric to emphasize the point that a decision must be made 
somewhere at times, and that he's willing to take this responsibility 
(which I agree with but that's a very long shot from calling it a 
dictatorship). Misinterpreting him in the way you're doing is basically 
assuming bad faith on Randal's behalf.

I don't use IRC precisely for the reason that it's not a medium to make 
a concise argument; it's a discussion medium where thoughts flow freely 
and the written argument shouldn't be recorded any more than when you 
have a verbal conversation over lunch.

Cheers,
   - Andreas

> 
> Randal also blatantly said that "the end justifies the means".
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> 16:57:33 <keithy> the whole point was to be philosophically inclusive
> 16:57:38 <keithy> otherwise squeak is dead
> 16:57:46 <keithy> trunk is not inclusive
> 16:58:07 <RandalSchwartz> at some point, it's a dictatorship.  perhaps you never liked that.
> 16:58:07 <keithy> trunk is one fork
> 16:58:21 <keithy> it is not a dictatorship
> 16:58:25 <RandalSchwartz> the official fork, yes
> 16:58:30 <RandalSchwartz> what we call "Squeak"
> 
> 
> best regards
> 
> Keith
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