On 17 February 2010 07:37, Ken G. Brown <kbrown at mac.com> wrote:
> At 10:47 PM -0500 2/16/10, David T. Lewis apparently wrote:
>>On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 08:41:22PM +0000, keith wrote:
>>>
>>> I put 3 years into THIS goal with the board's approval, and you
>>> scuppered me without a second thought because you were too impatient
>>> to even email me to ask how far away a release would be, and now you
>>> tell ME to be patient!!!!
>>
>>Hmm... I remember back when the alleged injustices were supposedly being
>>perpetrated, I took a look at the archives of the release team mailing
>>list. Big surprise - what Keith is saying is total nonsense. The board
>>pinged the release team on several occasions with no apparent response.
>>Nothing was getting delivered, no timeline was available, and there was
>>no indication that another three years would not go by without any
>>results.
>>
>>I also took a look at Keith's actual work as it related to bugs that
>>I was personally familiar with on Mantis. Big surprise - things labeled
>>as "fixes" that were not fixes, things tagged for inclusion in the
>>mythical "new release" that could not possible work. Hmmm... this does
>>not smell right.
>>
>>So from my point of view what I see is:
>>  - Lots of fancy talk about fictious deliverables
>>  - No actual deliverables
>>  - Excuses about why nothing gets done
>>  - Scapegoats who are at fault for the failure to deliver whatever it
>>    was that was almost ready to be finished real soon now if only people
>>    were enlightened enough to appreciate it
>>  - Sloppy work, full of errors, incomplete, undocumented
>>
>>In a word: bullshit.
>>
>>My comments are directed specifically towards Keith, and are not intended
>>to reflect negatively on the actual 3.11 release team leader, who AFAIK
>>has been consistently positive and constructive.
>>
>>Dave
>
> It is apparent to me that you have no real understanding of what Keith has been talking about and have made no effort in that regard.
>

And so, many others. Most people don't care about things which not in
closest circle of their interest. In this situation, it is not a
wonder , that there are few people who understanding what Keith says.
Giving people a working solution would be much better choice, rather
than repeating oneself again and again in a long and fluent emails,
which nobody reads.

> Ken G. Brown
>
>



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