[squeak-dev] Re: SqueakDBX installation questions (problems)?
Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez
miguel.coba at gmail.com
Fri Jan 15 16:09:52 UTC 2010
El vie, 15-01-2010 a las 09:53 -0600, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez
escribió:
> El jue, 14-01-2010 a las 20:45 -0800, Andreas Raab escribió:
> > Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
> > > If you find this difficult to do, is it is because you to use a crappy OS.
> >
> > Or perhaps it's because your instructions are so poorly written?
>
> Well, that is the same for 80% of code from smalltalk, very good code,
> crappy documentation or tutorials.
>
> And the fact is that windows is a very poorly environment to write
> generalized instructions that serve well to every user. Updated OS,
> non-updated OS, conflicting DLLS, overwriten DLLs, no way to "easily"
> know what is installed. No way to ask the users versions of packages
> installed, etc, etc, etc. And at least there is some documentation and
> Mariano isn't directing the user to read the "class comments" for help.
>
And BTW, now that I checked the squeakdbx site, I find it very well
documented, in fact the documentation is very professional given
smalltalk standards:
http://www.squeakdbx.org/Compiling%20and%20installing%20OpenDBX
http://www.squeakdbx.org/Compiling%20for%20different%20backends
http://www.squeakdbx.org/Compiling%20for%20different%
20backends/Different%20backends%20under%20Windows
Have you read it?
Cheers
>
> So, it takes effort from the documentation to reach a point when there
> is completely error-free. I'm sure that this, if needed, will force the
> SqueakDBX team to improve the documentation so that this won't happen
> again to other user of SqueakDBX.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> > Seriously, blaming your users for their OS when it's your instructions
> > that don't tell them what and how to do it is pretty cheap. And it won't
> > do anything for your future user base if people have to assume to be
> > insulted when they can't cope with your instructions.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > - Andreas
> >
> >
> > > "MysqlTinyBenchmarks new benchmarkInsert", and it crashed the VM.
> > >
> > >
> > > third, these benchmarks are for the mysql native driver, not for
> > > SqueakDBX. The same as the PG*Benchmarks, which are for the native
> > > Postgresql driver. We build them to compare results to our driver. Our
> > > benchmarks are DBX*Benchmarks.
> > >
> > > Finally, it has no sense to run benchmarks if you don't first run tests
> > > and be sure eveything works ok.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Mariano
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---John
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:05 PM, John Chludzinski
> > > <john.chludzinski at gmail.com <mailto:john.chludzinski at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > I'm afraid I don't have time now to play a "Whac-A-Mole" dll game
> > > > trying to get this to work. SORRY but I have a schedule breathing
> > > > down my neck! I appreciate your eforts though.
> > > >
> > > > If at some point you have a tried-and-true step by step method to
> > > > install SqueakDBX I'd certainly be interested.
> > > >
> > > > THANKS again, John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:53 AM, John Chludzinski
> > > > <john.chludzinski at gmail.com <mailto:john.chludzinski at gmail.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> I have the following dll's in my bin folder (along with
> > > Croquet.exe):
> > > >>
> > > >> libopendbx-1.dll
> > > >> libmysqlbackend-1.dll
> > > >>
> > > >> And I still have the problem?
> > > >>
> > > >> ---John
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:48 PM, John Chludzinski
> > > >> <john.chludzinski at gmail.com <mailto:john.chludzinski at gmail.com>>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>> Using SqueakMap I installed "SqueakDBX, version: 1.1"
> > > >>> (OpenDBX-Core-MarianoMartinezPeck.234.mcz). I then installed
> > > >>> FFI-Win32-ar.2.mcz, just to make sure I had the necessary FFI
> > > support.
> > > >>> Tried "MysqlTinyBenchmarks new benchmarkInsert" again and died
> > > with
> > > >>> 'Loading backend library failed' in DBXPlatform>>createConnection:.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> BTW, I checked and indeed libopendbx-1.dll is in the bin folder.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Any ideas?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ---John
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 5:32 PM, John Chludzinski
> > > >>> <john.chludzinski at gmail.com
> > > <mailto:john.chludzinski at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > >>>> I also using MySQL on Windows XP.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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Miguel Cobá
http://miguel.leugim.com.mx
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