> With all respect Keith, sometimes seems that you hates all the rest of
> the world, angry
> with the Board, angry with Andreas, angry with the people not using
> your projects.....maybe
> you should change something also.
>
> Cheers.
> Germán.

I don't doubt it, and never have for a second. I don't give excuses  
for my behaviour.

You have all been very helpful to me, many healing experiences have  
poured from these recent events. However I am not fully healed yet and  
comments like this following one don't help.

 From the board's report:

"One of the issues regarding the release of Trunk development work is  
how to release an image that has had many packages removed and yet  
make those removals easily and obviously available for reinstallation  
to users who are new to Squeak. Andreas brought this issue up on the  
squeak-dev mailing in hopes that someone would become interested and  
come up with a solution"

Do you have any idea how insulting is this?
Do you have any idea how insulting is this?
Do you have any idea how insulting is this?
Do you have any idea how insulting is this?

We did this 2 years ago.

When this need was the starting point of the old 3.11 process, "That  
moving towards a kernel image as a goal needs tools to manage the  
removal and subsequent intallation of packages, and that an image with  
the ability to unload optional packages, is functionally equivalent to  
an image in which you can load optional packages", off the tools are  
there. The fact that Andreas hasn't thought about this before, simply  
points towards the idiocy of the lets hack the image for the sake of  
it approach. The board already recognised that this approach was not  
getting us anywhere when they approved my proposal, and the pharo team  
were proving it.

Not only that ALL the work is finished, and has been in use for more  
than 18 months. Installer was originally developed for this purpose in  
2006, and subsequently Sake/Packages includes dependencies, and  
version control of package definitions. Again its not perfect, but the  
point remains, the "community" clamoured for a solution, and we  
developed it for the community, not for ourselves.

So... "someone who would become interested", I spent 3 years being  
interested on YOUR BEHALF, not even for my benefit, Installer scripts  
worked fine for me, I only build an image once a year or so, hand  
crafting it is just as productive, especially sine out of order  
loading feature of MC, means that dependencies are not that important.

So "someone who would become interested" ... you can shove it where  
the sun don't shine, and I will let you know when I eventually get  
healed.

regards

Keith
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