[squeak-dev] Re: [Vm-dev] COG, Trunk, and squeak.org

Alexander Lazarević laza at blobworks.com
Fri Jun 25 12:27:12 UTC 2010


What buttons?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXE1XwdtX1M

2010/6/25 Squeak List <squeaklist at yahoo.com>

> Michael,
>
> the specific problem (which i thought i spelled out fairly well):  i cannot
> find how to make cog update from TRUNK: the BUTTONS do not work in the
> preferences...
>
> which means that when i do, or try to reset the update site, the buttons
> just stop working - nothing happens when i click on them - they do not even
> PRETEND to be "clicked on... :)":
>
> " Have you set the update site to http://source.squeak.org/trunk in the
> preferences(under Monticello)?"...
>
> YES - and the buttons do nothing after i do that. i click on any button, or
> anything whatsoever, and the preference goes back to what it was before... i
> cannot "save" the preference to update via trunk (under Monticello)... that
> is THE issue :)
>
> and that was the ONLY point i was trying to make :)
>
> Thanks for replying with in a helpful way :)
>
> ken
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm sending this response to squeak-dev as well, as that is the more
> appropriate place ...
>
> Cog works well with trunk images; you need to have the latest updates
> in there, though. If I understand your message correctly, you seem to
> be unable to update to the latest trunk, right? Have you set the
> update site to http://source.squeak.org/trunk in the preferences
> (under Monticello)?
>
> Once all the updates are in, Cog starts up my trunk image, and I'm
> enjoying the speedup. :-)
>
> Pre-built releases take time to prepare, and please bear in mind that
> Cog was released just some few days ago. Also, Cog does have its
> glitches (I experience some difficulties with bytecode simulation, but
> also with stepping in the debugger - report upcoming) and is probably
> not 100 % stable for all purposes that the non-Cog VMs were well
> suited for.
>
> To summarise, while Cog is the "latest and greatest", as you put it,
> it should be considered beta. The stable Squeak release is 4.1 plus
> the latest VM, and in my actually not so humble opinion it is
> completely sufficient to provide pre-built releases for *that*.
>
> Perhaps I misunderstood you here and there: apologies for that, then.
>
> Best,
>
> Michael
>
> On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Squeak List <squeaklist at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > First, MANY thanks to everyone for bringing Cog to Squeak :)
> >
> > yet, i go to:
> > "og, a Squeak JIT VM with 2x-10x Speedup Released
> > Eliot Miranda announced that Teleplace released under a MIT license his
> work on a long awaited and anticipated new JIT virtual engine for Squeak and
> friends called Cog, with 2x-10x improvement in performance.  It is available
> on our ftp site."
> >
> > and find no way to get Cog working at all with Trunk... it seems like
> update options were released some time ago for 4.1, when folks were
> having similar problems - but i cannot get cog to accept any update
> preferences...
> >
> > what happened to the COMPLETELY PRE-BUILT releases????
> >
> > i think this is what confuses/infuriates some folks: expectation is to
> click a link and download the COMPLETE latest and greatest: here you have
> cog and functioning options INCLUDED in what you download from squeak.org,
> that allow you to choose from whatever update stream you choose... at least
> Trunk...
> >
> > windows vista 32 bit here.
> >
> > i cannot find how to make cog update from TRUNK: the BUTTONS do not work
> in the preferences... and i am amazed that i should have to look ANYWHERE
> beyond SQUEAK.ORG to waste time... the program works (except the updating
> via TRUNK) - did i miss the message that explains how to fix this
> (possibly/probably) - and if/since i did miss that clearly spelled out
> message, why on earth is it not spelled out clearly on squeak.org??? or
> did i miss it there also?
> >
> > otherwise, it all is very interesting :)
> >
> > and it seems that is working very well (cog) for some folks.
> >
> > i would just like to ask someone to CLEARLY EXPLAIN how to get the new
> Cog system working in Windows: so that i can use Trunk updates.
> >
> > sorry, but it just seems like when i download the Cog from squeak.org,
> it should not have problems connecting to Trunk... and that updating from
> Trunk should be a built in option in preferences... to me at least...
> something that you could turn off if you were not interested....
> >
> > thanx all,
> >
> > ken
> >
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