On 3/24/2010 11:24 AM, Ian Trudel wrote:
> Your suggestions are sound and acceptable. I would hit for Documents
> directory rather than Desktop, it's not good to clutter people's
> desktop against their will. I think it would be a good thing to push
> this into the upcoming or next release and call for feedback from
> people. It would be possible to fine tune accordingly afterwards.

Can you coordinate with Torsten to make such a build? It'd be terrific 
if we could give this to a few people to test it.

Cheers,
   - Andreas

> An additional shortcut on desktop would be great. Likewise, it's
> important to make it configurable (install / don't install) during the
> installation process.
>
> Ian.
>
> 2010/3/24 Andreas Raab<andreas.raab at gmx.de>:
>> On 3/24/2010 10:26 AM, Ian Trudel wrote:
>>>
>>> You have raised an important point, Andreas. Wouldn't it be a viable
>>> solution to simply copy the standard image to %AppData% or something
>>> along this line?
>>
>> That's what I'm wondering about. It would mean that the executable and
>> probably the sources file is installed in C:\Program Files and the image
>> elsewhere. That could work as long as we make it explicit and have an easy
>> way to navigate there. Say, the default image location could be either in
>> Desktop\Squeak4.1 or in Documents\Squeak4.1.
>>
>> I'm not sure what you'd put into the start menu though; perhaps a link to
>> the image directory and a shortcut that launches Squeak in that directory as
>> the default location? The latter would mean you launch the image if there's
>> only one and get a file open dialog if there's more than one - that may be
>> acceptable.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>   - Andreas
>>
>>
>>> 2010/3/24 Andreas Raab<andreas.raab at gmx.de>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Torsten -
>>>>
>>>> I very much like the idea in general but I'm having some doubts about
>>>> feasibility. I'm not sure if I've asked this already but in modern
>>>> Windows
>>>> environment the installation location is read only. In other words, if
>>>> you're installing this into C:\Program Files\ you may not be able to
>>>> save/saveAs, you may not be able to write files, you may not be able to
>>>> launch external editors etc. Have you tested any of that?
>>>>
>>>> I do know that Windows has some whacky rules about the install locations
>>>> (i.e., it actually has a shadow directory with files modified by the
>>>> local
>>>> user) but in many ways that's worse because it can lead to strange
>>>> inconsistencies (files and changes gone when switching between users) if
>>>> you're using it with the assumptions that it's a normal directory.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>   - Andreas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 3/24/2010 3:11 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>
>>>>> I created a simple "Setup/Installer for Squeak" for Windows similar
>>>>> to the one that is provided for Pharo. This allows easy
>>>>> installation/deinstallation on Windows without having
>>>>> to search all the necessary files from the website.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no FTP access on squeak.org to upload the result but is
>>>>> easy to rebuild on your own.
>>>>>
>>>>> See the attached screenshots for the final result
>>>>> and the tutorial below how to redo it. Maybe the release
>>>>> team wants to use that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bye
>>>>> T.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> A. Download and install the free NSIS installer package, here we use
>>>>> version 2.42 from [1]
>>>>>
>>>>> B. Also download the file "ZIPDLL.zip" plugin from [2]
>>>>>       - Extract ZipDLL.dll to directory "Plugins" in your NSIS
>>>>> installation
>>>>>       - Extract ZipDLL.nsh to directory "Include" in your NSIS
>>>>> installation
>>>>>
>>>>> C. Create a directory "squeakdist41" on your hard disk
>>>>>
>>>>> D. Extract the source file from [3] into this the "squeakdist41"
>>>>> directory
>>>>>
>>>>> E. Extract the latest VM you find at [4] into the "squeakdist41"
>>>>> directory
>>>>>      - which is now 3.11.8, so use the ZIP provided in [5]
>>>>>
>>>>> F. Download the latest image and changes file and again extract it into
>>>>> the "squeakdist41" directory
>>>>>      - we use "Squeak4.1-9745-alpha" here, so extract the files found in
>>>>> [6]
>>>>>
>>>>> G. Extract the attached "Setup_stuff.zip" into the "squeakdist41"
>>>>> directory
>>>>>
>>>>> E. Adapt the definitions at the top of the provided "setup.nsi" script
>>>>> file
>>>>>     (Not needed here, only necessary if you provide other VM versions,
>>>>> images, ...)
>>>>>
>>>>> F. Compile "setup.nsi" with the NSIS installer and you get a shiny new
>>>>> 10MB installer
>>>>>     ("setup_squeak4.1-9745-alpha2010.03.23.exe") to install/remove Squeak
>>>>> from a windows system
>>>>>
>>>>> G. Put it on ftp.squeak.org (only if you have access, I failed here)
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://nsis.sourceforge.net
>>>>> [2] http://nsis.sourceforge.net/ZipDLL
>>>>> [3] http://ftp.squeak.org/4.0/SqueakV40.sources.gz
>>>>> [4] http://squeakvm.org/win32/
>>>>> [5] http://squeakvm.org/win32/release/SqueakVM-Win32-3.11.8-bin.zip
>>>>> [6] http://ftp.squeak.org/trunk/Squeak4.1-9745-alpha.zip
>>>>>
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