On 11.10.2010, at 14:05, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote:

> Paulo,
> 
> translation in Squeak has a very long and complicated history. The first
> thing you must notice is that often the Etoys layer is treated as a
> separate project from Squeak itself. Very early on a really crude
> translation system was included in Etoys - it was basically just a
> single method that would set up some arrays inside the image matching
> the equivalent in English and in some other language. Paulo Drummond
> used this resouce to translate all Etoys tiles to Brazilian Portuguese
> back in 2005.
> 
> What I described above was exclusively for Etoys and didn't work for the
> rest of Squeak. So Diego Gomez Deck created a much more sophisiticated
> system which included special browsers and some new runtime methods. He
> made it so his new system was compatible with the old Etoys one and it
> was easy to upgrade Etoys to take advantage of the new features. This
> system was officially adopted in Squeak 3.8. Looking at your
> screenshots, my impression is that this is what you are using.
> 
> When Etoys became an important part of the OLPC project, it was decided
> that the translation infrastructure used by the other OLPC subprojects,
> Pootle, should be adopted by Etoys as well. The necessary changes to the
> code were made and the Pootle project was created:
> 
> http://translate.sugarlabs.org/projects/etoys_new/
> 
> Most of the old translations were moved over to the new system (in 2006,
> I think) and all work has happened there since.
> 
> There are many details which I don't know:
> 
> - are the new translations Etoys-only or are Smalltalk level stuff
> included?

It includes Smalltalk tools.

> - does Squeak 4.1 include only Diego's system or has the Pootle code
> been merged?

The new system uses GNU gettext external translation files (*.po). It was implemented by Korakurider.

Hilaire Fernandes made a package for Pharo from the Etoys code I think. That might be a good base for getting it into Squeak.

- Bert -

> I hope that the people more directly involved with this will reply to
> you. Most translation discussions happen in the etoys-dev list rather
> than here, however.
> 
> -- Jecel
> 
>