On Tue, 2010-09-07 at 13:01 -0700, Casey Ransberger wrote:
> Below...
> 
> On Sep 7, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Andreas Raab <andreas.raab at gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> > What do peopple think of the idea of starting over? From what I've
> seen at Google code I much prefer their issue tracker. And there's a
> wiki associated with it that can hold information such as we just
> discussed.
> 
> What's Ken Causey think about that? One less web app to keep up, OTOH,
> introduces a potential dependency on a service we don't control.

Well, I'm seriously split.  On the one hand I have no interest in
spending more time than I have to right now on box-admins tasks.  That
said, I do like control, and in the past I have generally found myself
much more frustrated by tools over which I have little control than
those that require more time to setup/maintain from me.

Frankly I'm skeptical that any existing tracking tool is going to work
for everyone and that it will be consistently adopted.  I'm not even
sure one could be made, if so it would probably best be tightly tied
into MCZ/SqueakSource or replicate the functionality of SqueakSource.
I've tried to get people interested in designing and building such a
thing in the past with little success.

Ken

> I think it's a fine idea myself, but I'd like to see the existing bug
> DB be preserved while the community figures out what works. 
> 
> > 
> > Cheers,
> >  - Andreas
> > 
> >>  Or
> >>> perhaps close 'em all and start over. The real problem with bug
> trackers
> >>> is that if they're not kept current all the time they tend to
> simply
> >>> overflow.
> >> 
> >> YES.
> >> 
> >> 
> >>>> My only outstanding question is: should I not bother entering
> things in
> >>>> Mantis and just upload to the inbox and be done with it?  That
> would be
> >>>> simpler, obviously, but what's the most helpful?
> >> 
> >> Inbox is fine and we do not want to force people to use it. However
> >> for documentation issues we (Michael, Casey, Sean and me) want to
> give
> >> it a try. Our efforts have been modest so far but we want to do
> what
> >> is possible with our time constraints.
> >> 
> >> BTW there is an RSS feed of open documentation issues
> >> http://bugs.squeak.org/issues_rss.php?project_id=5&filter_id=947
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> At this point, the most effective approach is likely to just
> upload to
> >>> the inbox. Since uploads are posted here we see them (we don't see
> bugs
> >>> on Mantis that are posted, fixed, etc. - one of the major
> shortcomings).
> >>> If the fix looks all right you've got a chance it'll be in. And if
> you
> >>> provide a test, you got a *good* chance it'll go in.
> >> 
> >> Yes.
> >> 
> >> Hannes
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> 

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