On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 02:14:56PM -0600, Chris Muller wrote:
> Excellent, thanks Eliot.  That's been the plan for 4.2 all along, I
> see no reason to abandon that now.
> 
> I am currently trying to get a 4.2 RC1 built and saved under some
> interpreter VM.  I will need access or assistance for uploading it to
> ftp.squeak.org (preferably access, since I'd like to build the image
> myself).
> 
> Then, I would like to have just under 4 more weeks, until 11:59pm,
> 1/30/2011, for "last call" for 4.2.  We've been testing for some time
> now, we seem to have a stable, worthy release.  Throughout January, we
> will need to test (and fix) on all platforms, document, improve
> aesthetics, and update web-sites.
> 
> We will push the final release out the week of 1/31.
> 
> VM Release Manager:  Does this time-frame seem doable for a final
> release of the simple-stack VM?
> 
>  - Chris

Well I should not speak for Eliot r.e. Cog, but he has been releasing
reliable, field-tested Cog VMs for some time now, so planning to have
updated VMs for end of January seems perfectly reasonable to me.

Dave


> 
> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:38 PM, Levente Uzonyi <leves at elte.hu> wrote:
> >>
> >> Quoting Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>> Levente wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I think we should wait for the new VMs, before releasing the new images.
> >>>
> >>> Hi Levente,
> >>>
> >>> I did agree, but now that Eliot is on a tear with a new code
> >>> generator, the first official release might still be some weeks away.
> >>> Someone please correct me if that is a misstatement.
> >>>
> >>> It seems unlikely 4.2 will be incompatible with whatever ends up being
> >>> the first official Cog release. ??We should consider pushing it out the
> >>> door so we can re-open the trunk to new featurey.
> >>
> >> That's right, Cog's recent improvements introduced some instability. So I
> >> think we should release Squeak 4.2 with SqueakVM only and postpone the
> >> multi-VM release. We can also make the release cycle of Squeak 4.3 shorter
> >> to catch up with the two release per year policy and deliver the VM
> >> improvements earlier. I'm also sure that a lot of improvements will be done
> >> till April/May on both image and VM side.
> >
> > It would be my preference to release with the Cog VM using the naive
> > SimpleStackBasedCogit code generator. ??After all that's worth at least 3x
> > over the standard VM whereas the unstable StackToregisterMappingCogit is
> > only ~ 8% faster than SimpleStackBasedCogit. ??It's quite easy for me to
> > generate either; the two coexist in the same VMMaker.
> > best
> > Eliot
> >>
> >>
> >> Levente
> >>
> >>>
> >>> ??- Chris
> >>>