[squeak-dev] etoys web browser plugin on Linux
bradallenfuller at gmail.com
Wed Jul 13 00:59:06 UTC 2011
For others, and I'm sure many know about this, but there is a
description on OLPC/XO XMPP/Presence that I quickly found from Gary's
(When they talk about "XO" I assume that it can be any hardware that
can accommodate the OLPC platform.)
Looking through the wiki for how/if Etoys or squeak hook into this service.
I don't have much time to devote to this, but it's interesting a lot
of work has already been done.
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 17:27, Brad Fuller <bradallenfuller at gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow Gary, thanks.
> I gleen from your reply that you think going the "client" route - with
> an app on the user pc - and then connecting to the cloud as need, is a
> proper, or best approach for this idea.
> So, looking through the Presence info and then taking the XMPP link,
> it seems that Apache already has an XMPP service and there\s a list of
> many more. I have no idea what this really mean, but maybe it means an
> XMPP client can be created in squeak and work with your own XMPP
> service? Again, I"m only speculating after looking at this in 10min.
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 16:37, Gary Dunn <garydunnhi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have been investigating similar issues for the Open Slate Project.
>> Many challenges to overcomes, but it is possible.
>> o Security
>> o Presence, as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presence_information
>> o Version synchronization, dependencies
>> I have been poking around in Nebraska. Realistically only applicable
>> in a LAN environment and even then awkward by today's standards, but
>> not so bad if the goal is to learn how it works -- what is an IP
>> address, what does it do, where does it come from. In Nebraska you can
>> share a desktop and have several people access and work on a common
>> You should look at the OLPC implementation of Etoys. They have
>> replaced Nebraska with other technology better suited to Internet
>> usage. I think it adds XMPP for presence. http://www.squeakland.org/
>> and http://www.sugarlabs.org/
>> Good luck!
>> Gary Dunn
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 5:03 AM, Brad Fuller <bradallenfuller at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> For some reason, I knew it would be you, Bert, who would reply ;-)
>>> Ok, I'll look again for what you suggested later today. Thanks !
>>> But, while I'm on the subject: Maybe there's a better way than the
>>> plugin for my needs. I'm looking for the best way(s) to have
>>> applications be "connected" to other people (not locally). What does
>>> "connected" mean? I don't know exactly, yet. I'm still in the early
>>> stages of writing the proposal. I know the apps will be
>>> interactive/exploratory "modules" for educational subjects. But I
>>> would like a major portion of their facility to share ideas among
>>> others with the same modules, get input from remote instructors (and
>>> hopefully to receive code updates.) I thought maybe it could be just
>>> an AJAX-type web service where everything could be done from the
>>> backend server. But, it seems a better approach would be to use the
>>> power of a local application that is "connected" or has "access" to
>>> the other remote applications.
>>> Smalltalk is not a requirement, but it seems to be a no-brainer when
>>> it comes to quickly prototyping on multiple platforms.
>>> Any direction is most humbly welcomed
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 02:29, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
>>>> On 12.07.2011, at 03:05, Brad Fuller wrote:
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>> Does the etoys/squeak web browser plugin still work?
>>>> It should.
>>>>> If so, where do I get it and how to I install?
>>>> In theory it should just work after installing Etoys. Also in theory, theory and practice are the same.
>>>>> Specifically, I'm running Ubuntu at the moment, but would like it to
>>>>> work on other platforms as well. I've "installed" the debian packages
>>>>> of etoys, but that doesn't seem to contain the plugin.
>>>> The plugin should be in /usr/lib/squeak/<version>, called npsqueak.so. There should be a script "npsqueakregister" in /usr/lib/squeak. That script should have been run by the installer. It should have placed a symlink to npsqueak.so in the browser's plugins directory. The plugin should be listed in Firefox's "about:plugins" (possibly after restarting the browser).
>>>> Would be interesting to know which of these steps failed.
>>>> If you can't make it work, there is an unofficial way of making Etoys-To-Go work as a plugin. For that, download Etoys-To-Go from http://squeakland.org/ , unzip in your home directory, and run the Contents/Linux-i686/npetoysregister script.
>>>> - Bert -
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