[squeak-dev] Re: Morphic on HTML+CSS

Igor Stasenko siguctua at gmail.com
Fri Jun 17 12:55:18 UTC 2011


2011/6/17 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek at eranova.si>:
> S, Igor Stasenko piše:
>
>>>>> 2. is this a clear signal that we need to rebuild Morphic on top of
>>>>>   HTML+CSS, to leverage all Morphic advantages and come back
>>>>>   to bleeding edge again?
>>>>
>>>> Dan Ingalls has done it already: http://lively-kernel.org/
>>>
>>> Lively is a project to watch and study, but Lively is JavaScript only,
>>> not using HTML and CSS, as far as I know.
>>>
>>> Separation of design with CSS is namely something which really raised
>>> the creativity fo designers on the web. This can help building better
>>> and nicely looking Smalltalk apps too!
>>>
>>
>> indeed. this separation is good.
>> And it would be even better if you separate HTML from the web :)
>
> You actually can. There is no need for HTML to render webpages, as
> Lively show nicely. Pages can be composed just from JavaScript by DOM
> manipulation API. Same with CSS. And even a combination is possible: JS
> built page, but with classical external CSS.
>
> External CSS is ideal for web designers and Lively can be actually
> improved visualy that way. Whic would also make it more popular, we
> shouldn't forget aesthetics even for academic work to be successful
> these days  :)
>

Yes, what i meant to say, that the idea of separating markup from
styles using CSS is good.
So, if we could make real objects (like morphs) and apply css on them,
it would be much nicer.

> Best regards
> Janko
>
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