On Tue, 31 May 2011, Frank Shearar wrote:

> Indeed, I'm starting to think that tiling window managers are the only
> actual window managers (as in, if you have to move your windows
> around, _you're_ the window manager). A colleague pointed out, when I
> questioned his rabid love of tiling, that I've constructed my workflow
> in such a way as to turn my non-tiling WM into one, effectively.
>
> Maybe there's a way of easily leveraging Laurent Laffont's new TVM? -
> http://magaloma.blogspot.com/2011/05/tiling-window-manager.html

It's not a window manager at all, just a button, that tries to lay out 
windows as equally sized tiles when you press it. While it's a good start, 
it's far from a real tiling window manager IMHO.


Levente

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> frank
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> On 31 May 2011 07:22, Michael Haupt <mhaupt at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Andreas Wacknitz <A.Wacknitz at gmx.de>
>> Date: 31 May 2011 08:18
>> Subject: [Pharo-project] usability of Pharo and Squeak
>> To: Pharo-project at lists.gforge.inria.fr
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>> Hi all,
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>> I have convinced a friend to take a closer look at Pharo 1.2.1 and
>> Dolphin Smalltalk. He is an experienced Java developer.
>> After some time he started to complain about Pharo. I was discussing
>> with him and now think that he has some valid points.
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>> His biggest complaint is: "Why does Pharo always show windows at sizes
>> and positions I don't want?"
>> I answered him: You could set the standard window size in the class
>> RealEstateAgent and furthermore you can create or change
>>>> initialExtent methods in every class that is involved.
>> But his answer was: Why should I do that? It's the responsibility of
>> an IDE. I don't want to program elementary things of my IDE. Why is
>> there no mechanism that let a user set the sizes and positions of
>> windows? Netbeans and Eclipse are doing that nicely. Why isn't it
>> possible in Pharo?
>> After that discussion I now question my own way of using Pharo and
>> Squeak. I have created some changesets that I used to file in when
>> using
>> a fresh image. But that seems stupid now...
>>
>> His second complaint was that he doesn't like the cluttered windows.
>> While programming he had a lot of open windows and told me that he
>> lost overview.
>> Especially in Pharo he is complaining about minimized windows that are
>> hard to distinguish. He better likes Dolphin with tabbed windows that
>> are common in other IDE's.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Andreas
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