[squeak-dev] History of ObjectsAsMethods?
Yoshiki Ohshima
yoshiki at vpri.org
Thu Oct 13 18:08:27 UTC 2011
Ah, this is interesting. Intercepting a message does have a long
tradition but I was not aware the vibe from South on this one.
The current stuff in the VM and Squeak side follows the Smalltalk
tradition and provide a meta-features without requiring much
meta-level mind-set. That's what I like about it.
-- Yoshiki
At Thu, 13 Oct 2011 09:51:50 -0300,
Alejandro F. Reimondo wrote:
>
> Hi,
> As I know, the very first reference and implementation made
> public for Squeak was mine, based on private developments
> for other smalltalk platform and implemented in public media
> as minimal changes to Squeak VM (it was under a name
> like non-compiledMethods).
> The main idea was based in the fact that methods are objects
> (as required by reflection features and underlying machinery),
> and if we use an object of any class to implement behavior
> it is legal and the responsibility to resolve the understanding
> of the message (as part of the contract assumed when message
> was received) if for that object...
> That kind of reasoning was discused many times in
> Smalltalking list (www.smalltalking.net), talks about Object
> Ambiences and before, in regional meetings (in Latin America)
> related with Object Technology, looong time ago (+15years)
> In a decade++ we have reflected in other topics of interest
> based on the concept that smalltalk change (contents)
> without loosing identity; so we are still naming Smalltalk to
> media that reveal us evolution, preserving it's identity
> (... name).
> As the ideas and implementation was made public without
> any copyright conditions there was people that has taken the
> idea and implementation as sources for inspiration without
> mention the origins.
> Hope this bits of history are useful to draw one path
> of the set of histories related with this "technique",
> Ale.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yoshiki Ohshima" <yoshiki at vpri.org>
> To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
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> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 7:25 PM
> Subject: [squeak-dev] History of ObjectsAsMethods?
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I used ObjectsAsMethods feature for something by myself first time
> > yesterday. It is used as a per-method basis dNU: override but much
> > cleaner.
> >
> > I chatted with my colleagues about the origin of its idea and
> > implementation. Does this trace back to an implementation Andreas did
> > 10 years ago, or is this something else came from Europe?
> >
> > -- Yoshiki
> >
> >
>
>
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