[squeak-dev] Re: [Pharo-project] Pharo and the rest of the ecosystem
Edgar De Cleene
edgardec2005 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 26 12:05:27 UTC 2012
El 4/26/12 5:19 AM, "Pavel Krivanek" <pavel.krivanek at gmail.com> escribió:
> Hi Chris,
> the planed changes in Pharo are not autotelic but in most cases they
> are replacements of current buggy and unmaintainable subsytems.
> We also use automatic or semiautomatic tools for shrinking and
> modularization of the image. For example uMorphic is generated moslty
> automatically with subsequent hand-made cleanup. The original Squeak
> KernelImage was generated in the similar way. But we use the results
> of this tools only as the supporting experimental sources of
> The goals of Cuis, Spoon and Pharo are very very similar. Everyone
> wants to have the "small, clean, understandable Smalltalk system". But
> Pharo development is more evolutional and modularity is more valuable
> than small size.
> In Smalltalk it is easy to dive into the system and create something
> like Cuis, Spoon or KernelImage. But this projects were created by a
> single person and the degree of adoption of this forks is low. You may
> for example to take the current PharoKernel and withing few days to
> create a perfect small and clean kernel. It is cool intelectual
> adventure but to make it generally used stuff is another story.
> -- Pavel
Again i ask to fellows on all forks adopt the great work of years from
We should not waste valuable time and instead take PharoKernel and build our
beloved pet on top of it.
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