> " Many applications do not need FFI"  that could be said for a lot of
> smalltalk libraries already included with squeak. For example I have not
> seen many apps in squeak source make use of etoys ( I love etoys by the way
> and one of the reason I prefer Squeak from Pharo and is potentially
> necessary for a project I am making). I dont think that is a good excuse as
> well...

We want to remove Etoys from the base image as well.

> In any case I asked the question not because I want to force the inclusion
> of FFIs but because its the first time in last decade or so that I use a
> language implementation that does not come included with an FFI and tham

We've tried to make installation of FFI as painless as possible.  It
doesn't seem so bad to just have to click "install".  Maybe the other
languages should follow this paradigm instead of including it...