## [squeak-dev] Metacello and Squeak4.4

H. Hirzel hannes.hirzel at gmail.com
Thu Sep 6 10:55:20 UTC 2012

On 8/23/12, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6 August 2012 16:17, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich at vmware.com> wrote:
>> Frank,
>>
>> For the automated builds, I want to use the latestAvailable download as my
>> test bed, because that's  the scenario I want to test:
>>
>>   - execute Metacello
>>
>> I have ensured that with the patch Metacello runs against Squeak4.4 so I
>> can wait until the patch gets processed and then turn on my automated
>> builds....
>
> I've kind've lost track of what more we need to do, Dale. Shall we
> shake out the builderCI failure first before dropping Metacello-Base
> into 4.4, or do you think they're unrelated issues?
>
> frank

Any news about including Metacello for 4.4?

--Hannes

>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> | From: "Frank Shearar" <frank.shearar at gmail.com>
>> | To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
>> <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>> | Sent: Monday, August 6, 2012 12:29:25 AM
>> | Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Metacello and Squeak4.4
>> |
>> | On 6 August 2012 05:43, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich at vmware.com> wrote:
>> | > Frank,
>> | >
>> | > FYI: It appears that the Squeak4.4 available from Jenkins does not
>> | > have the patched Environment loaded ... so travis ci builds
>> | > fail...
>> | >
>> | > Let me know when the patch is integrated and I'll turn the travis
>> | > ci builds back on ...
>> |
>> | Hi Dale,
>> |
>> | The necessary change - Environments-fbs.5 - is sitting in the Inbox
>> | waiting for review. If it helps, you could always cherry-pick that?
>> |
>> | frank
>> |
>> | > Dale
>> | >
>> | > ----- Original Message -----
>> | > | From: "Frank Shearar" <frank.shearar at gmail.com>
>> | > | To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
>> | > | <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>> | > | Sent: Sunday, August 5, 2012 11:07:20 AM
>> | > | Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Metacello and Squeak4.4
>> | > |
>> | > | On 4 August 2012 20:00, Dale Henrichs <dhenrich at vmware.com>
>> | > | wrote:
>> | > | > Okay,
>> | > | >
>> | > | > Using Frank's 4.4 trunk (update 12154) you can load
>> | > | > Metacello-Base-dkh.98 from
>> | > | > http://seaside.gemstone.com/ss/metacello and then use the
>> | > | > Metacello Preview scripting API[1].
>> | > |
>> | > | Hi Dale,
>> | > |
>> | > | Now that the infrastructure seems to be settling down, it looks
>> | > | like
>> | > | a
>> | > | good source for an up-to-date trunk image is
>> | > |
>> http://squeakci.org/job/SqueakTrunk/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/target/TrunkImage.image.
>> | > |
>> | > | > As reported earlier, there are still some test failures in
>> | > | > MetacelloPreview 1.0-beta.32.2, but the fixes are to the tests
>> | > | > and
>> | > | > not the functional code base, so I'd say you can include
>> | > | > Metacello-Base-dkh.98 in 4.4 at your leisure.
>> | > | >
>> | > | > To load the basic Metacello functionality, you can use the
>> | > | > Scripting API to load another configuration or execute the
>> | > | > following:
>> | > | >
>> | > | >   Metacello new
>> | > | >     configuration: 'MetacelloPreview';
>> | > | >     version: #stable;
>> | > | >     gemsource: 'metacello';
>> | > | >     load: 'batch'.
>> | > | >
>> | > | > \to load the tests, exedute:
>> | > | >
>> | > | >   Metacello new
>> | > | >     configuration: 'MetacelloPreview';
>> | > | >     version: #stable;
>> | > | >     gemsource: 'metacello';
>> | > | >     load: 'TravisCI'.
>> | > |
>> | > | Just to get things completely clear in my head, these are
>> | > | instructions
>> | > | for Metacello users post-inclusion, right? They're not actions
>> | > | that
>> | > | we
>> | > | need to follow other than pushing Metacello-Base into the trunk,
>> | > | right?
>> | > |
>> | > | frank
>> | > |
>> | > | > I'll release 1.0-beta.32.3 in a week or so, but I'll just
>> | > | > update
>> | > | > the #stable definition, so the above expressions should be used
>> | > | > to
>> | > | > guarantee that you're picking up the latest release...
>> | > | >
>> | > | > Dale
>> | > | >
>> | > | > [1]
>> | > | >
>> https://github.com/dalehenrich/metacello-work/blob/master/docs/MetacelloScriptingAPI.md
>> | > | >
>> | > | > ----- Original Message -----
>> | > | > | From: "Dale Henrichs" <dhenrich at vmware.com>
>> | > | > | To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
>> | > | > | <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>> | > | > | Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 4:19:58 PM
>> | > | > | Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Metacello and Squeak4.4
>> | > | > |
>> | > | > | After the patch, a reasonable number of test issues:
>> | > | > |
>> | > | > |   695 run, 691 passes, 0 expected failures, 2 failures, 2
>> | > | > |   errors,
>> | > | > |   0
>> | > | > |   unexpected passes
>> | > | > |
>> | > | > | Dale
>> | > | > |
>> | > | > | ----- Original Message -----
>> | > | > | | From: "Dale Henrichs" <dhenrich at vmware.com>
>> | > | > | | To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
>> | > | > | | <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>> | > | > | | Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 1:25:57 PM
>> | > | > | | Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Metacello and Squeak4.4
>> | > | > | |
>> | > | > | | Sounds fair to me ... I'll patch my current in place and
>> | > | > | | kick
>> | > | > | | off
>> | > | > | | the
>> | > | > | | tests again ...
>> | > | > | |
>> | > | > | | Thanks guys,
>> | > | > | |
>> | > | > | | Dale
>> | > | > | |
>> | > | > | | ----- Original Message -----
>> | > | > | | | From: "Frank Shearar" <frank.shearar at gmail.com>
>> | > | > | | | To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
>> | > | > | | | <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>> | > | > | | | Sent: Friday, August 3, 2012 1:20:57 PM
>> | > | > | | | Subject: Re: [squeak-dev] Metacello and Squeak4.4
>> | > | > | | |
>> | > | > | | | On 3 August 2012 21:17, Colin Putney <colin at wiresong.com>
>> | > | > | | | wrote:
>> | > | > | | | >
>> | > | > | | | >
>> | > | > | | | > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Dale Henrichs
>> | > | > | | | > <dhenrich at vmware.com>
>> | > | > | | | > wrote:
>> | > | > | | | >>
>> | > | > | | | >> Frank,
>> | > | > | | | >>
>> | > | > | | | >> The Metacello tests add/remove global variables
>> | > | > | | | >> to/from
>> | > | > | | | >> Smalltalk
>> | > | > | | | >> and it
>> | > | > | | | >> looks like Environment does not implement
>> | > | > | | | >> #removeKey:ifAbsent:,
>> | > | > | | | >> so
>> | > | > | | | >> I've got
>> | > | > | | | >> some 400 test failures because I can't remove a global
>> | > | > | | | >> from
>> | > | > | | | >> Smalltalk ...
>> | > | > | | | >>
>> | > | > | | | >> I can hack this for the time being but I'm curious
>> | > | > | | | >> what
>> | > | > | | | >> the
>> | > | > | | | >> longer
>> | > | > | | | >> term
>> | > | > | | | >> plan will be with regards to removing global variables
>> | > | > | | | >> from
>> | > | > | | | >> Smalltalk or
>> | > | > | | | >> perhaps leaving #removeKey:ifAbsent: out is
>> | > | > | | | >> inadvertent
>> | > | > | | | >> ...
>> | > | > | | | >>
>> | > | > | | | >> BTW, I'm using update 12154 ...
>> | > | > | | | >
>> | > | > | | | >
>> | > | > | | | > First, Environments is being pushed to Squeak 4.5, so
>> | > | > | | | > it
>> | > | > | | | > should
>> | > | > | | | > be
>> | > | > | | | > removed
>> | > | > | | | > from 4.4 shortly.
>> | > | > | | | >
>> | > | > | | | > During the development period for 4.5, Environments
>> | > | > | | | > will
>> | > | > | | | > implement
>> | > | > | | | > #removeKey:ifAbsent:, but eventually that will be
>> | > | > | | | > deprecated in
>> | > | > | | | > favour of
>> | > | > | | | > #undeclare: or something similar.
>> | > | > | | |
>> | > | > | | | For the nonce, how about we implement
>> | > | > | | | #removeKey:ifAbsent:
>> | > | > | | | (see
>> | > | > | | | Inbox), so we can at least unblock Dale?
>> | > | > | | |
>> | > | > | | | We do need to remove Environments, but Dale's work
>> | > | > | | | contributes to
>> | > | > | | | ensuring/checking 4.4's stability.
>> | > | > | | |
>> | > | > | | | frank
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