Am 25.02.2013 um 14:26 schrieb radoslav hodnicak <rh at 4096.sk>:

> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:
> PS: Off-topic but IMHO important. I started replying to this email
>     7:30 AM and got stuck at the installation instructions and now
>     I send this mail at 1 PM;
>       I, sadly, have to conclude: Installing a proper development
>     image for Seaside on Squeak is still a mess.
>       I was the one who provided the Squeak Seaside image for Squeak 4.3
>     but currently I see myself completely unable to set up Seaside for
>     Squeak 4.4.
>     Just some random notes to relieve me:
>     • Installing Seaside need Metacello.
>     • Then somehow trying to install Seaside: do it wrong and Boom: Zinc is missing
>       and completely unavailable for Squeak
>     • Bootstrapping metacello needs Omnibrowser basics
>     • The Omnibrowser verison for Squeak as in the ConfigurationOfOmnibrowser is
>       completely broken. Remember the not working buttons? still there.
>     • First installing OmniBrowser via Coiln’s script and then loading anything via
>       Metacello that depends on OB: boom
>     • First installing Omnibrowser via Metacello, then loading via Colin’s script:
>       no boom, but conflicting Classes. need to remove OB-Morphic manually...
>     • at _that_ point I gave up.
> 
> I haven't tried this recently but Lukas' scripts for building images at https://github.com/renggli/builder/tree/master/scripts don't use Metacello and I have used this method to load Seaside in the past (replacing Gofer calls with Installer).
> 
> rado

Well, there is
	https://github.com/renggli/builder/blob/master/scripts/seaside3-metacello.st
which explicitely _does_ use Metacello and
	https://github.com/renggli/builder/blob/master/scripts/seaside3.st
which explicitely _does not_ use Metacello.

If you were an “image distributor”, ie, someone who hands images to other developers,
which one would you take? Which resulting image is easier to update? Which script is easier
to maintain? (Sorry the many questions, not meant to be offensive :) )

Best
	-Tobias