[squeak-dev] re: SqueakCore

Edgar J. De Cleene edgardec2005 at gmail.com
Tue Jan 22 09:43:01 UTC 2013




On 1/21/13 10:08 PM, "Craig Latta" <craig at netjam.org> wrote:

> 
> Hi Edgar--
> 
>> Sorry by the late answer, but only now have time to this.
>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> I have plenty of confidence in Spoon, but life is short and fragile
>> as we learn the hard way.
> 
>      It certainly is! We are all extremely fortunate to be here; every
> moment is precious. From grief I draw strength to honor those no longer
> with us, by living as fully as I can, in community with others.
> 
>      Like you, and all of us, I give time as I am able, and I'm grateful
> for the time that others spend with me. I've been working with others on
> Spoon, and I encourage everyone who has time to give to participate.
> 
>> In the time we wait for a Perfect Solution, we could have a Good
>> Solution
> 
>      I agree what's happening now is good. I envision something better,
> I've gotten much of the way there with the help of many, and perfection
> is not a goal.
> 
>      While I do have a desired design in mind, I don't think perfection
> is necessary, or even a healthy pursuit. My design came from a large
> amount of first-hand experience, reflection on practical tradeoffs, and
> discussions with actual and potential users. Regardless, one need not
> wait: I would love to see more Spoon issues recorded on Mantis, more use
> cases discussed on #squeak and #spoon on IRC, more comments on
> Spoon-related blog postings, etc.
> 
>      For the entire time I've been working with Smalltalk, I've viewed
> anything which clarifies the structural boundaries between bodies of
> code as a good thing. That includes every module system and shrinking
> approach applied to every Smalltalk system I've used. We can use the
> knowledge gained from each of them to make every one of them better.
> 
>      In the case of Squeak, I would like to use what we've learned from
> SqueakMap, Universes, and other artifacts from Squeak 1 through 4 to
> compose modules with Naiad, Spoon's module system. I maintain my
> intention to coordinate the creation of Squeak 5 this way. I like what's
> happening in Squeak 4 in the meantime.
> 
> 
>      thanks again,


You know I try Spoon each time you give us something, don't you?
And like the way Spoon show progress.

But like Cuis, the wonder made by Juan, I see this as long way of work to
the day we have some we take Squeak or Pharo 1.4 packages and feed without
too much trouble.

I'm 62 and don't know as long as my lifetime is, but chances is against the
medium Squeaker (around 40 years)

So choose by now follow the Pavel Krivanek way, try any you do and learn
from Cuis

Edgar




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