[squeak-dev] Looking for Scratch base image

Chris Hogan chris.hogan.mailinglist at gmail.com
Thu Jan 31 13:18:27 UTC 2013


I believe that Lively was switched to canvas.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:03 AM, David Corking <lists at dcorking.com> wrote:

> I think for music (muO) Stephane is better off with Squeak or Pharo
> implementations of Scratch, as Bert suggested. Nevertheless, Hannes
> Hirzel wrote a very interesting post:
>
> > What about snap (JavaScript implementation)?
> >
> > http://chirp.scratchr.org/dl/experimental/JsMorphic/snap.html
> >
> > It should run on tablets.
>
> SNAP! is version 4 of BYOB, so it will have the fun computer-sciency
> bits that BYOB added to Scratch, and which should give Scratch a
> higher ceiling.
>
> You should also find Jens Moenig's two pre-release articles interesting:
> http://www.chirp.scratchr.org/blog/?p=39 ("Enjoy it on your iPad!")
> http://www.chirp.scratchr.org/blog/?p=34
>
> Markus Gaelli wrote:
> >> Unfortunately we don't have Morphic for vectors -- do we?
> >> Might be a killer app on android tablets and other platforms which don't
> >> allow flash but would allow sharing of projects.
>
> I might be wrong, but I think Dan Ingalls's Lively Kernel research is
> Morphic for vectors (specifically SVG)
>
> http://www.lively-kernel.org/
>
> (The Google Play store has the Adobe Air client for ARMv7 upwards. But
> HTML5 is a lot less hassle for users. Didn't Adobe announce an
> end-of-life plan for its Flash/Shockwave/Air clients in favour of
> HTML5?)
>
> In my opinion, Scratch, as a bitmap app, already has potential to be a
> killer app on tablets and smartphones.
>
> Yet if someone builds collaborative toys and games around a vector and
> touch-based Morphic, I think they will be embarking on a rewarding
> project.
>
> On the same topic, we need great ideas for a touch user experience for
> Morphic Etoys over at Squeakland. It is pretty urgent as the
> single-touch OLPC tablet is out soon, and those lovely scripting tiles
> need fine motor control, tiny fingers, a two-button mouse and a
> keyboard.
>
> http://squeakland.org/discuss/squeakland/
>
> Have fun! David
>
>
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