Yeah but on this particular list, the diaspora isn't as interesting as what
we're going to do with the bits we've got. I'm a huge fan of and advocate
of Cuis, in part because the Cuis crowd still dreams of becoming the basis
of a future Squeak. The Pharo crowd though, with Elvis, has left the
building.

It's probably best if I stop talking right bloody now.

On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 5:03 AM, Nicolas Cellier <
nicolas.cellier.aka.nice at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think there is no point in making internationalization unloadable.
> There is a better image for this purpose and it's named Cuis.
> So +1 for merging the single and multi Character*
> Also note that Pharo has greater plans about text composition
> refactorings...
>
> Nicolas
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> 2013/9/2 Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
>
>> On 2013-09-02, at 07:24, tim Rowledge <tim at rowledge.org> wrote:
>>
>> > How have we got into such a mixed and messy state? Did some experiment
>> get partially worked on and forgotten?
>>
>> That is pretty much exactly what happened - back in 2005 for the 3.8
>> release the m17n work done by our Japanese subcommunity was merged in. That
>> work had existed for a couple of years so it was designed to be rather
>> independent of Squeak's old system, rather than being a proper update of
>> it. That is why there is much duplication of machinery. It got to a state
>> that it pretty much worked fine, but no cleanup or simplification was ever
>> attempted.
>>
>> FT2 is a distinct effort of utilizing the FreeType plugin that was never
>> properly integrated (it's still not in trunk). HostFont had a similar aim
>> but the plugin was only ever implemented on Windows. Scratch's
>> UnicodePlugin is completely separate. And rudimentary Pango support is part
>> of RomePlugin (for odd reasons) but has not been used in Squeak trunk (it
>> is used to render paragraphs of non-Latin scripts in Etoys on Linux).
>>
>> I agree, it's a mess. Glad you're taking it on :)
>>
>> - Bert -
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