[squeak-dev] Squeak 4.5 Windows right-click debacle

David T. Lewis lewis at mail.msen.com
Fri Aug 29 02:08:53 UTC 2014

On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 01:28:18PM -0500, Chris Muller wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 9:14 PM, David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 05:01:25PM -0500, Chris Muller wrote:
> > > Hi guys, did anyone happen to notice that RIGHT-CLICK DOESN'T WORK in
> > > Windows on our Squeak-4.5 release download?
> > >
> > > http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xIgjzkwaWr4J:stackoverflow.com/questions/6802219/squeak-smalltalk-why-cant-i-activate-the-do-it-menu+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
> > >
> > > Verified.  HTF did this get past our testing?  Was it related to a
> > > last-minute inclusion of the CogVM?
> >
> > I am assuming that this is an ini file setting issue, in which case it
> > would be a packaging problem as opposed to a Squeak 4.5 issue. If and
> > when there is a Squeak 4.5.1, the designation should refer to the Squeak
> > image itself, not to whatever configurations may have been included in
> > an all-in-one package.
> Yes, that's what I said by #4.
> > If we want the all-in-one package to be presented as the primary release
> > artifact (not a great idea IMO),
> Why?  Just curious..

The all-in-one package is great, both as a convenient way to provide a
multi-platform Squeak, and also as quick way for a new user to try Squeak
without prior knowledge of the image/changes/VM organization.

However, it is not a good to deliver the latest version of Squeak to
someone who already uses Squeak, and who may already have a VM and other
images in use. Presumably that includes practically everyone on this mailing

The all-in-one is a very good thing to offer in addition to the release
image, and I think that the web site should explain this so that new users
are encouraged to try the all-in-one. But even a first time user should be
encouraged to understand the basic concept of the image-based environment.
The web site should explain this (as indeed it used to do), so that people
are encouraged to try Squeak in the most convenient way, and so that they
are also encouraged to start grokking the strange and truly wonderful new
thing they are seeing for the first time.


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