[squeak-dev] Re: Squeak 4.5 Windows right-click debacle
casey.obrien.r at gmail.com
Sat Aug 30 12:59:36 UTC 2014
Ugh, it's just such a frustration. I put people onto us over the internet
and they ask me which mouse button they're supposed to push, and I'm just
at a loss to help, because my mouse only has one button, and the keyboard
buttons one is supposed to hold to get the context menu are different too.
More seriously: David's argument is strengthened somewhat by the fact that
there are still places in the universe where a few more bits worth of
download can be very expensive (for example, to a teacher in orbit or an
astronaut in a developing nation. Or maybe Scratch that, reverse it.)
For most newcomers, the all-in-one reduces friction. For most experienced
users, it's a pain in the ass and a waste of bandwidth. These two facts put
tension on what to release. I'm very grateful for the all-in-one, and the
people who make it possible. I think with Frank's continuous integration,
we should be able to have the cake and eat it too, though, but that's just
On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
> On 30.08.2014, at 12:35, Marcel Taeumel <
> marcel.taeumel at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> wrote:
> > "Middle buttons" are clickable mouse wheels. At most, a click here
> starts a
> > scroll-by-move mode.
> Actually you can set the wheel-click to produce a real middle-button-click
> event (instead of the useless scroll menu thingy). Which is what you should
> do as a Smalltalker ;) Even my Apple Magic Mouse (the one without any
> buttons) is set to produce real middle and right click events.
> What Frank was referring to is that Microsoft labels its mouse buttons
> 1-3-2 so the "second" mouse button is on the right. This is really the
> source of all the confusion.
> What the VM needs to give you is red-yellow-blue for left-middle-right.
> See the FAQ http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/897
> Our image's swapMouseButtons preference is enabled by default. That is
> correct, in Squeak we want the right mouse button to bring up the context
> menu (yellow). In Etoys, it is disabled, right-click gives you the halo
> I think what needs to change is the Windows VM's default mapping.
> Not quite sure about the modifier processing in
> EventSensor>>processEvent:. The button swapping is done via
> ButtonDecodeTable, but then the modifier (ctrl/alt) mapping is applied
> (except if on a Mac, because the Mac VM's Info.plist file lets you specify
> exactly which color should be generate for which button-modifier combo).
> And then it is applied again in processMouseEvent: to make the MVC buttons.
> Do the Windows and Linux VMs still rely on that?
> - Bert -
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