On 13.02.2014, at 18:25, Göran Krampe <goran at krampe.se> wrote:

> Hi Chris and all!
> 
> On 02/13/2014 05:25 PM, Chris Muller wrote:
> [SNIP]
>>>> What do you think?
>>>> 
>>>> ...and btw, adding notes on Projects on SS that they are dead and pointing
>>>> to StHub was a good idea BUT... my notes are gone. Probably due to SS
>>>> restarted and losing data. Hmmm, I think I will delete my old projects
>>>> simply.
>> 
>> Please do not delete old projects from SqueakSource.  Just because YOU
>> don't access "old code" because you use Pharo doesn't mean others
>> don't access it using Squeak.  Pleaes feel free to *copy* projects
>> there, but "moving" projects presumes and intrudes way too much.
> 
> A lot of misconceptions above:
> 
> 1. I use both Squeak and Pharo, both at work (3DICC) and for pleasure. What has that got to do with SS? AFAIK SS doesn't care.
> 
> 2. My own personal projects are probably my own to decide over, right? My whole point was described in another reply to Levente (note that I am now talking about my own account, not Andreas):
> 
> - I don't trust SS (and that is my choice)
> - I can't create new projects there and I want to use a single service
> - I don't want people to find a stale StompProtocol project when the current place for StompProtocol is on StHub
> - StHub works just as fine as an MC source as SS
> 
> Now, what I *did* was that I added a bold note on each project that I had copied over - so that people would see that "Oh, this is not maintained". Now, those notes *ALL DISAPPEARED*. This is why I am now contemplating removal of the projects instead.
> 
>> In fact, I think we should remove the ability to delete projects from SS.
> 
> What?!
> 
>> As original creator of Squeak's software catalog, you know better than
>> anyone that a software Catalog is the proper way to document what
>> versions work for what platform and where they can be installed from.
> 
> Its not that easy anymore - SqueakMap is not used outside of Squeak (Pharo), and I would dare say its not even used 100% in the Squeak community.

true.

> 
> Further - it doesn't matter - I should be free to choose which repository I use for my code, don't you agree? If you want to copy my projects and publish them in your account - feel free to do so.
> 
> But preventing me from moving my primary repo to somewhere else than SS is ... rude to say the least.
> 
>>> Not all projects are dead on squeaksource.com. If you don't plan to update
>>> your projects there, then add a pointer to the new repository. Deleting the
>>> projects will not help at all.
>> 
>> +1.
> 
> See my response to that, I *did* and it got removed. See?
> 
> Sigh... why are people suddenly so hostile?

I would not call that hostility. It is mostly misunderstanding.
And different premises and experiences.

Best
	-Tobias

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