[squeak-dev] Andreas projects on SS
Göran Krampe
goran at krampe.se
Fri Feb 14 07:55:12 UTC 2014
Hi!
On 02/14/2014 12:16 AM, Nicolas Cellier wrote:
[SNIP]
> Or, they may just think "Oh well, this WebClient thing does not
> work, its just old." and simply move on. Not realizing that it is
> indeed maintained, but hosted under S3.
>
>
> Göran,
> I suggested to commit each package empty with a clear comment indicating
> where further dev. takes place.
> Wouldn't it solve the problem?
Yeah, I would say it solves it for me because I can't come up with any
other way of accessing the Project repo where you would actually *miss*
my note (since the URL entry for versions actually shows the note - I
was under the wrong impression it did not).
So yes, this is what I now have done for all of my personal projects -
thus hopefully making sure that people notice that the current repo is
on StHub.
> >> I really hope you are not seriously
>
> considering forbidding deleting projects.
>
>
> Well, for the purposes for which you want to delete your
> projects (to
> meet a cataloging requirement) makes me want to seriously
> consider it.
>
>
> Its not a "cataloging requirement", its the fact that I just want to
> host my code in a single place (as far as I can). Now, I have always
> viewed SS as a hosting *service*.
>
> You telling me that you may decide to forbid me from administrating
> my own projects thus taking them from me - makes me want to just go
> there RIGHT NOW and delete all my projects and beating you to it.
>
> And yeah, I am seriously considering it too.
>
> That's your right, but isn't that un-necessarily hostile and aggressive
> toward the potential users?
I am not the hostile one - Chris was talking about forbidding deletion
of Projects. I was under the impression (as David Lewis also seems to
be) that my account is my account and under my full control.
I don't want stuff on the Internet under *my name* that someone else
controls - to me its obvious.
> As a user, if I have a solution that happens to work, why should I urge
> to switch to ss3 or stHub?
I don't understand the question. Are you asking me why *you* should
think of switching to something else than SS?
> Ah if all people working for IT would adopt the same behavior, then we
> would constantly have to buy new hardware, with new software, downloaded
> from new repository and with new bugs. Oops, I just discovered a
> business model ;)
Again, I am not following. Its simple really, *I* (=me) want *one* place
to maintain my personal Monticello based projects. SS has a truly sucky
track record. Reassurances that "its all fine now" doesn't ring true
because I can still not create new Projects. Further, SS itself is not
moving forward AFAIK.
StHub is IMHO better in many different ways although I am slightly
annoyed with it being down sometimes, but AFAIK it has never lost data.
So I am moving my primary repos there, what's the problem?
I am not saying everyone should move.
regards, Göran
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