[squeak-dev] Seaside on Squeak

Chris Muller asqueaker at gmail.com
Wed Jan 15 15:56:26 UTC 2014


Frank, by my limited knowledge, the call: / answer API of Seaside used
a Continuation to allow a modal component to be rendered on top of
other components until #answer: is sent by one of the callbacks.  That
provides stateless web-apps the ability to do desktop-like modal
"dialog" boxes that can return values to the calling component.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 15 January 2014 03:10, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 14-01-2014, at 5:17 PM, Colin Putney <colin at wiresong.com> wrote:
>>>> > Meh. Don't worry about it. Seaside is obsolete anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Really? I haven’t taken any interest in web development in ages; what’s
>>>> the replacement for Seaside?
>>>
>>>
>>> It's not that there's a replacement. It's more that the problem it solves
>>> isn't a problem anymore.  Continuations were a brilliant way to manage apps
>>> that were basically dynamically generated web pages connected via links and
>>> forms. But Javascript runtimes have gotten way, way faster, more robust and
>>> more standardized in the last 10 years.  Modern web apps are more of a
>>> client-server model: the UI rendering and interface logic is all done in
>>> Javascript running in the browser, and it communicates with the server by
>>> shuttling JSON back and forth over HTTP. In that sort of a system,
>>> continuations don't provide any benefit, and the drawbacks start to become
>>> significant.
>>
>> Continuations were never good for UI design anyway.  Modal.
>
> I don't understand - what does UI modal-ness got to do with with
> continuations? (Or: the whole of Squeak is fundamentally built on
> continuations (Process, ContextPart).)
>
> frank
>


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