[squeak-dev] mouseOverForKeyboardFocus default for 4.5

Eliot Miranda eliot.miranda at gmail.com
Thu Jan 23 22:27:26 UTC 2014


Hi Bert,

    great news that there's proper support for focus in Morphic.  I think
we at Cadence will want to port the code to our application quite quickly.
 How can I find out what the changes are so as to isolate them and port
them to our Newspeak/Newsqueak fork?


On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>wrote:

> On 23.01.2014, at 05:27, Chris Muller <ma.chris.m at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Leaving this disabled more closely matches Windows, but it requires
> > clicking wherever you want to put keyboard focus.  But clicking for
> > focus is invokes whatever selection where you clicked (even though you
> > only want to gain keyboard focus on the list) which could cause even a
> > modal pop-up if the text pane was dirty.  Clumsy!
> >
> > With the option to Enable this setting, merely pointing provides
> > immediate keyboard control to the widget under the hand, without
> > needing to click.  That is real "point-and-click", because you point,
> > then you can "click" with any key not just on the mouse, but also the
> > keyboard, to manipulate the UI.  Control is magnified under two
> > dimensions of input.
> >
> > We all in this community set what we want for all preferences.  Many
> > of the default settings specified in ReleaseBuilder are the opposite
> > of my personal settings, but the best choice for the defaults.  This
> > is about the _default_ for Squeak, not our personal preference.
> >
> > I think we've reached a time of such technical-diversity that don't we
> > need to care as much about emulating Windows XP.  Squeak can do
> > better, and I think it should.
>
> -1
>
> It's not about emulating Windows XP, but click-to-focus simply won, on any
> platform. There are just a couple of X window managers that have
> point-to-focus. If you still want that, change the preference. The default
> should be what is most commonly used.
>
> (We did change this a couple years back. It was for the better. Now your
> text input does not stop anymore if you knock the mouse pointer out of the
> way.)
>
> - Bert -
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-- 
best,
Eliot
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