[squeak-dev] Adding WebClient and SqueakSSL to Trunk?

karl ramberg karlramberg at gmail.com
Tue Apr 21 10:25:28 UTC 2015


He,
Downloading latest build: Build #1337 (2015-apr-21 10:50:00)

The coolest build so far... ;-)

Karl

On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 12:06 PM, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ah, I was using a Spur image.
>
> Karl
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Levente Uzonyi <leves at elte.hu> wrote:
>
>> There's update-topa.307, which contains these packages.
>>
>> Levente
>>
>> On Tue, 21 Apr 2015, karl ramberg wrote:
>>
>>  Great.Seems we need to issue a update map before these gets pulled in by
>>> updating.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can also remove Universes package ?
>>> That also needs to be done in a update map, I think
>>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 20, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:
>>>       Hi,
>>>
>>>       On 14.04.2015, at 14:18, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>       > We should pull these in to trunk as soon as possible so we can
>>> get stuff tested before the release of a new image.
>>>       >
>>>       > Can you do that Levente, as you seem most familiar with the
>>> changes you made ?
>>>       >
>>>
>>>       Although I am not levente I went ahead and pushed SqueakSSL and
>>> WebClient into
>>>       the trunk. Lets see how it turns out.
>>>
>>>       Best
>>>               -Tobias
>>>
>>>       > Karl
>>>       >
>>>       > On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>       > Hi Levente
>>>       >
>>>       > On 06.04.2015, at 20:43, Levente Uzonyi <leves at elte.hu> wrote:
>>>       >
>>>       > > It would be better for these packages too, because they would
>>> get more
>>>       > > attention.
>>>       > > The SqueakSSL/WebClient changes I made in October[1] are still
>>> missing from the official repositories.
>>>       > >
>>>       > > Levente
>>>       > >
>>>       > > [1]
>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2014-October/180251.html
>>>       > >
>>>       >
>>>       > I just now saw that there is more than just vm stuff.
>>>       >
>>>       > The problem with WebClient and SqueakSSL as of now is, that
>>>       > its maintenance-ship is, well, complicated. I went forth and
>>>       > pushed tiny changes to WebClient by just being somewhat on
>>>       > my own initiative[1].
>>>       >
>>>       > ===========
>>>       >
>>>       > Dear Squeak Community as a whole and dear Ron as person possibly
>>>       > best fit to make a decision on this:
>>>       >
>>>       >         Should we put the maintainer-ship of WebClient and
>>>       >         SqueakSSL into the hands of the Squeak Core Team?
>>>       >
>>>       >
>>>       > ===========
>>>       >
>>>       > Best
>>>       >         -Tobias
>>>       >
>>>       >
>>>       >
>>>       >
>>>       > [1]: There's a saying, initiative is discipline-lessness with
>>> positive outcome
>>>       >
>>>       > > On Mon, 6 Apr 2015, Tobias Pape wrote:
>>>       > >
>>>       > >>
>>>       > >> On 06.04.2015, at 18:59, David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>       > >>
>>>       > >>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Marcel Taeumel
>>>       > >>>> <marcel.taeumel at student.hpi.uni-potsdam.de> wrote:
>>>       > >>>>> Hey! :)
>>>       > >>>>>
>>>       > >>>>> Can we add both to the update map (somehow?) and see if it
>>> works out
>>>       > >>>>> during
>>>       > >>>>> the following days/weeks until the release?
>>>       > >>>>
>>>       > >>>> +1
>>>       > >>>>
>>>       > >>>
>>>       > >>> What is the point of moving these into the base image?
>>> Aren't these
>>>       > >>> exactly the kinds of things that you would want to have
>>> maintained as
>>>       > >>> independent packages that can be easily loaded from
>>> SqueakMap?
>>>       > >>
>>>       > >> I think both these are Extremely Important (capital).
>>>       > >> WebClient as replacement for HTTPSocket (it already provides
>>> a compatibility
>>>       > >> layer; Andreas seemed to always considered WebClient to
>>> replace HTTPSocket),
>>>       > >> and SqueakSSL because you can't load anything meaningful on
>>> the web without
>>>       > >> SSL; github, twitter, most sites. And that's good.
>>>       > >> Plus we _finally_ could put the Plain Text Passwords for
>>> Monticello behind
>>>       > >> SSL…
>>>       > >>
>>>       > >> Best
>>>       > >>      -Tobias
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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