On 3 December 2015 at 17:08, Colin Putney <colin at wiresong.com> wrote:

> I'll backport the trunk changes to 4.6 tonight.
>
>
Thanks, Colin.  That will also enable new users to save projects.  :)

Best,
Huw



> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 7:06 AM, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As direct loading does not work I suggest something like  copy/paste
>> updated methods from a Squeak 5 trunk image one by one.
>>
>> back to the 4.6 image.
>>
>> I.e. open the mcz file in a code browser but do not load it.
>>
>> If necessary the code has to be adapted to cater for updates which
>> happened elsewhere in the meantime as you write
>>
>> #includesSubString: -> #includesSubstring:
>> #subStrings -> #substrings
>>
>> It seems that there not all that many fixes.
>>
>>
>> --Hannes
>>
>> On 12/3/15, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Looks earliest System package to not load to 4.6 is:
>> >
>> > Name: System-ul.757
>> > Author: ul
>> > Time: 14 August 2015, 7:19:00.474 pm
>> > UUID: fca51b99-736e-4666-acac-e5c5b6a1d397
>> > Ancestors: System-cmm.756
>> >
>> > #includesSubString: -> #includesSubstring:
>> > #subStrings -> #substrings
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Huw
>> >
>> >
>> > On 3 December 2015 at 14:43, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hannes,
>> >>
>> >> I got as far as a failure to load System-cwp.781 with missing
>> dependency
>> >> on class UnhandledWarning:
>> >>
>> >> "Warning: This package depends on the following classes:
>> >>   UnhandledWarning
>> >> You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load
>> these
>> >> definitions:
>> >>   UnhandledWarning>>defaultAction"
>> >>
>> >> The version of package system for 4.6 is System-topa.753
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >> Huw
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 3 December 2015 at 08:57, H. Hirzel <hannes.hirzel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Huw,
>> >>>
>> >>> See a proposal for a quick fix below using the work of Colin Putney
>> last
>> >>> week.
>> >>>
>> >>> --Hannes
>> >>>
>> >>> On 12/3/15, David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com> wrote:
>> >>> > Huw,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > The timing of your question is perfect :-)
>> >>> >
>> >>> > There are some very recent updates (in the last week or so) to the
>> >>> Squeak
>> >>> > trunk development stream that address this problem.
>> >>>
>> >>> A copy of the mail describing these updates is here
>> >>> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/6218
>> >>>
>> >>> This is work in
>> >>> > progress,
>> >>> > but in a nutshell, the latest trunk fixes should resolve the problem
>> >>> > for
>> >>> > 4.6 images, but there is work still to be done in order to make it
>> >>> > work
>> >>> > in 5.0 Spur. We still need to get these latest updates into the
>> >>> > standard
>> >>> > update stream for squeak46, but as soon as that is complete it
>> should
>> >>> work
>> >>> > for those images.
>> >>>
>> >>> The updates Colin Putney committed to the trunk on Friday, Saturday
>> >>> 27/28th Nov are
>> >>>
>> >>> Name: Environments-cwp.60
>> >>> Author: cwp
>> >>> Time: 27 November 2015, 5:14:36.376 pm
>> >>> UUID: c8836cde-f21e-4652-a2e9-73f8de6f00e0
>> >>> Ancestors: Environments-kfr.59
>> >>>
>> >>> Always serialize Bindings as DiskProxies.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Name: System-cwp.781
>> >>> Author: cwp
>> >>> Time: 27 November 2015, 5:22:38.591 pm
>> >>> UUID: c0ffbab7-f7ee-4966-ba07-d57436ac42f2
>> >>> Ancestors: System-mt.780
>> >>>
>> >>> Remove specialized serialization of Associations.
>> >>> Since associations are no longer used as globals, we never need to
>> >>> serialize them using DiskProxy.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Name: System-cwp.782
>> >>> Author: cwp
>> >>> Time: 27 November 2015, 9:00:42.904 pm
>> >>> UUID: ae1f1166-0438-4e78-8ded-46c59c212210
>> >>> Ancestors: System-cwp.781
>> >>>
>> >>> Reload DiskProxies using the current environment
>> >>>
>> >>> When looking up objects from the destination image, DiskProxies should
>> >>> use the current environment, rather than referring to to Smalltalk.
>> >>> This lets objects on disk be loaded into arbitrary environments.
>> >>>
>> >>> These updates are committed to the trunk (i.e. the ongoing development
>> >>> after the release of 5.0). However  in a trunk image
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> http://build.squeak.org/job/Trunk/default/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/target/TrunkImage.zip
>> >>> they do NOT work yet.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> What you could do as of now
>> >>> -----------------------------------------
>> >>>
>> >>> - File in the updates above into a 4.6 image.
>> >>> - It should fix the problem (I have not tried yet, so please report if
>> >>> it is successful).
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> > I am less certain of the timing for 5.0 images.
>> >>>
>> >>> The reason is that the new VM crashes, and Colin has reported this to
>> >>> the Virtual Machine List.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> > Dave
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 01:25:37AM +0000, Huw Lloyd wrote:
>> >>> >> Arbitrarily picking an earlier version ... 4.1 does not have this
>> >>> >> issue/bug.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Any quick fixes for this?  I'm interested in using this in
>> >>> >> conjunction
>> >>> >> with
>> >>> >> aida.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Best,
>> >>> >> Huw
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On 3 December 2015 at 01:13, Huw Lloyd <huw.softdesigns at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > For both 4.6 & 5.0 on the mac, saving a project generates the
>> >>> following
>> >>> >> > error: "NotImplemented: ClassBinding or a superclass should
>> >>> >> > implement
>> >>> >> > objectForDataStream."
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > The comments in the method suggest this shouldn't have been
>> >>> >> > released
>> >>> to
>> >>> >> > a
>> >>> >> > stable version: "It's not yet clear how serialization should work
>> >>> >> > in
>> >>> >> > the
>> >>> >> > presence of environments".
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Problem 2 is that if I then "abandon" the error messge, the
>> >>> >> > workspace
>> >>> >> > is
>> >>> >> > then flooded with "MessageNotUnderstood" error boxes.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Is "environments" something experimental that should be switched
>> >>> >> > off?
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Best,
>> >>> >> > Huw
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >
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