Hi Karl,

> On Dec 10, 2015, at 9:59 PM, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hm,
> I'm a little confused/ worried because I did not change anything yet.

So was I when I replied yesterday cuz I didn't see what's changed.  But it is fixed.  Levente did you fix it?  Is that what should be read from your last message?  If so, much thanks!
> 
> Best,
> Karl
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks Karl,
>> 
>>     my auto-update script now works perfectly again.  Thanks.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 11:12 AM, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Here is a update-kfr.339.mcm with the difference from update-mt.339.mcm :
>>> 
>>> dependency ('Squeak-Version' 'Squeak-Version-kfr.4713' '96c171dc-c340-492e-b376-30e0212b9c8e')
>>> 
>>> and universes are not in it
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 6:34 PM, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 6:01 PM, Levente Uzonyi <leves at caesar.elte.hu> wrote:
>>>>> IMHO all you need to do is to fire up a Squeak image which has Squeak-Version-kfr.4713 loaded, open update-mt.339.mcm (open the Trunk repository, select this update map, and click Browse), remove Universes-mt.48 from the list (select, right click, remove), and update Squeak-Version to kfr.4713 (select, right click, update from image (or repository if you're brave), and finally save it (Store) using the same name (update-mt.339).
>>>> 
>>>> I tried this, but there is no stored file from the MCConfigurationBrowser... I'm not sure what is going on, why it is not outputting a update file to my local repository.
>>>> 
>>>> I also updated from a Squeak 5.0 image and I did not run into any problems with the update...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Karl
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>>> Here comes the tricky part: you can't overwrite an existing update map, nor can you move it away from the repository using the web interface, so an administrator of source.squeak.org will have to do one of these things to let you save the correct version.
>>>>> Alternatively, you could try to save it using different initials but same version (e.g. update-kfr.339) and hope that the update process will sort the maps lexicographically, but I'd rather not rely on this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Levente
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 10 Dec 2015, karl ramberg wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>       Hi Karl,
>>>>>>       On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:27 PM, karl ramberg <karlramberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>             Hi,It it related with this Levente mentioned in a mail earlier ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Sadly the update process will break if your image has Universes-mt.48 in it, because it'll try to load Universes-kfr.49 after it has been removed by Squeak-Version. I think removing Universes from the update map will help."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I asked how to proceed but I got no answer.
>>>>>> I'm not sure how one make a update map
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As Chris says the updates live in the "update" package.  Open up a repository browser on source.squeak.org/trunk and you'll see them towards the bottom (update.spur contains older updates from the time of the bootstrap from 4.6 to what became 5.0, you can ignore
>>>>>> them).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What I would do is create a local mirror, either by fully populating my package cache with all the 5.0 packages and updates, or creating a directory repository and downloading all the packages and updates to there and then play with the local repository until I
>>>>>> got the update working again, and then I would upload the changed updates to trunk.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm attaching SpurBootstrapMonticelloPackagePatcher which is the hack I used to automate patching 4.6 packages to make them Spur compatible in the run-up to 5.0.  I'm doing this because it contains methods like downloadToSourceDirAllPackageVersionsStartingWith:
>>>>>> that download all versions of a package to a local repository starting from a specific version.  Sao these hacks will help you in populating your local repository prior to experimenting. Once I'd downloaded all packages I would then take a local copy and modify
>>>>>> the copy, I could then diff the original and the modified clone to see what had changed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  _,,,^..^,,,_
>>>>>> best, Eliot
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       Best,
>>>>>> Karl 
>>>>>> [cleardot.gif]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 4:06 AM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>       Hi,
>>>>>>     whatever happened in unloading Universes, it broke the ability to update a release Squeak 5.0 image to the current tip.  Hence my automated scripts to build 64-bit images are broken.  Can whoever broke the update either fix it, or provide some
>>>>>> reasonable workaround so that I can restore my scripts?  What's at stake here is, well, a high performance 64-bit Squeak and/or Pharo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think it's reasonable, even mandatory that we should be able to update a release N image to the tip of release N.  We should have CI servers that try and do this (I think we do, don't we?), and so IMO it's incumbent on whoever breaks the update to
>>>>>> fix things, e.g. by changing update maps appropriately.  [and I don't mean this as a punishment, or something that the person has to do on their own; I'm happy to help fix things, it's /really/ important that the update works, and not just from the
>>>>>> last update].
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.  Apologies if I appear rude; it's not my intent.  I just want my auto-update back ;-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 2:55 PM, <commits at source.squeak.org> wrote:
>>>>>>       Changes to Trunk (http://source.squeak.org/trunk.html) in the last 24 hours:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/packages/2015-November/009199.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       Name: Squeak-Version-kfr.4713
>>>>>>       Ancestors: Squeak-Version-kfr.4712
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       Unload and unregister Universes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>       =============================================
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> _,,,^..^,,,_
>>>>>> best, Eliot
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> _,,,^..^,,,_
>> best, Eliot
> 
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