[squeak-dev] Re: Mac Squeak binary virtual machine for Squeak 3.10.2
trygver at ifi.uio.no
Tue Jun 9 16:07:21 UTC 2015
I'm sorry to say that your advice didn't work. Worse: The Squeak
community has lost a valuable contributor, a prime mover in the patterns
and agile communities and the author of several books on OO. My friend
" /I still can’t find a version of Squeak for my Mac that will run
Trygve’s current BabyIDE. At this point, even if one appears, it is
obvious that my dependence on “the introvert Squeak community” will put
me in a much more fragile position than with any of my other concept
proofs. It will be extremely difficult to build a future on such fragile
I came to Xerox PARC and Smalltalk in 1978 where I made my contributions
to Smalltalk-80. Since then, I have been working almost exclusively with
Smalltalk. My company invested in a VW class library of more than
100,000 lines of Smalltalk code and used it in our consulting. A strong
selling point was that our tenders were accompanied by a demo version of
the program we offered to deliver. Our library and applications were
repeatedly threatened by new versions of VW. The code is now dead; there
is no VM that will run our old images. The investment is lost.
I hoped Squeak would be better. It isn't. Squeak is less stable than VW
ever was. My new programming paradigm, DCI, is supported by BabyIDE that
runs under Squeak 3.10. I have ported BabyIDE to 4.5, but there are new
bugs caused by differences between 3.10 and 4.5. The result is that I
have reverted to 3.10 because it's too much hassle to run after the
stream of Squeak releases. I thought Pharo would be better, but their
mailing list conversations indicate that they do not understand that
developers need a stable foundation for their work.
The result is that I too leave Smalltalk and concentrate on other
environments. A pity, because I still believe Smalltalk has the
potential to become a superior environment for non-professional
programmers. I am particularly thinking of children and experts such as
computational chemists who use computers in their work.
It's very painful, but I am now terminating development work in Squeak
leave the Squeak and Pharo mailing lists. I will continue my work in
some mainstream language. I have just done some work in Java with
better that working for the dustbin.
On 31.05.2015 16:52, Trygve Reenskaug wrote:
A friend of mine is doing some experiments using a Mac and my program
Baby IDE. BabyIDE is works under Squeak 3.10.2. Is there a binary
virtual machine for a current Mac that he can use?
On 31.05.2015 17:00, Chris Cunnington wrote:
> You need a non-Cog vm. I usually download any Etoys vm. 
> From there, drag it onto the vm or right click, choose “Open With” and
> choose Etoys.
>  http://squeakland.org/download/
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